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battery sends in live

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2005 7:10 am
by plonk08
hello all, first post here... I've been checking the forum out and it seems there is a lot of informed musicians on here, so bear with the super newb question.
What i'm trying to accomplish is to use different effects on my drums with battery in live. I've managed to route a few different outputs from battery to "audio" channels in live, but I can't figure out how to use a send insert (compression) on the different drum outputs. Should I be bouncing these to audio first? Or is it possible to go from battery
-> audio channel -> send? I hope that makes sense...

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2005 7:30 am
by supster
here's a thread on battery from a few weeks back

http://www.ableton.com/forum/viewtopic. ... ht=battery

talks about routing, effects ...

not sure exactly what you mean but:

compression is an insert effect, almost always goes right in the effects rack for your channel. not in a send

so drop the compressor in each audio channel you want to compress. if its from battery (say, kick) you compress it as an insert

delays and similar effects often go on sends, in that case put your delay in the send of choice, then turn up the return on the audio channel you want to effect

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2005 7:33 am
by Harris.Andrew
Not 100% sure what you're asking . . . compression on a send channel is not the standard usage; compression should go directly on the signal chain. You could put it on a send, in fact i do this all the time to phatten up low freqs; but if you want to transform the signal, rather than add another one to it, compression goes right in the channel.

given audio channels that recieve directly from battery - let's call them b1, b2 etc. - you should be able to set up one more audio channel that recieves from them, say b0.

you could apply compression on individual or groups of hits (however you've got it configured) by putting a compressor on any / all of b1,2 . . . you could compress the entire output of battery by putting a compressor on b0. You can't put a compressor after Battery and affect all Battery sounds, just the ones that aren't routed elsewhere.

sends from b1,2 . . . will work fine even if all is routed to b0. you could even route the sends to b0. or just send from b0.

damn, i'm longwinded today. hope that helped :D

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2005 8:39 am
by plonk08
cool, both posts helped clarify it, thanks...