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I have some nice Choral collections from Syria, Africa, Oriental, European, American, Middle Eastern, etc. I am missing Gregorian. Where do I find a realistic sounding Gregorian VSTi?



[Edit: Opps. Corrected typo, i meant VSTi]

miekwave wrote:I have some nice Choral collections from Syria, Africa, Oriental, European, American, Middle Eastern, etc. I am missing Gregorian. Where do I find a realistic sounding Gregorian VTSi?

Surely Gregorian chant is just a way of organising voices and perhaps characterstic reverb settings. I can't imagine how an American and European choir collection differ, but I would assume that the European choir recordings would be the ones..

I guess op has somewhat misunderstood the concept of VSTi. Then again, he's looking for VTSi's.

LeifonMars wrote:I guess op has somewhat misunderstood the concept of VSTi. Then again, he's looking for VTSi's.

I am looking for a VSTi that is a dedicated to Gregorian Chats


Like this - Voices of Passion
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7poZAxawH2Y
and this - Symphonc Chiors
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aI5Gg2-mhmU
and this - Mars Mens Chior
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vIeqHDiJ-c
and this - Venus Chior
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAlFt8iIJXg

But with authentic Gregorian Samples

Gregorian chant is a compositional technique for groups of male voices. If you already have a sampler that's preloaded with a male choir sample pack you don't need to purchase another instrument. If you think that there is an intrinsic Gregorian sound you could probably buy a sample pack or maybe some recordings of Gregorian chant. Seriously though... Its just a way of organising voices and perhaps some characteristic acoustics which could be simulated using a convolution reverb. Maybe none of this really matters and you just want a Gregorian chant vsti.

I've heard mention of Magnus Choir VSTi used in relation to Gregorian before, but never head/used it myself:
http://syntheway.com/choir.htm

Spectrasonics included a biggish selection of gregorian samples on their Symphony of Voices CD set (which is apparently still available). The CDs are in either AKAI or Roland sampler format. If you have Kontakt, it can import Akai samples. Several other software samplers can as well:
http://www.ilio.com/products/spectrason ... 9A4DD3A63B

I've also heard that most of the content from that CD set was included in the Omnisphere VST factory set. But I don't know what specific bits made the cut, although most of the Gregorian stuff did go in.
http://www.spectrasonics.net/products/omnisphere.php

Logic has some nice voices included in it's package......
- as an instrument, Gregorian, just the voices, like aaaah
- and as apple loops, with latin words........
- and there's a BBC (voices of the world?) sample CD which has nice chants

Enjoy!

oddstep wrote:Gregorian chant is a compositional technique for groups of male voices. If you already have a sampler that's preloaded with a male choir sample pack you don't need to purchase another instrument. If you think that there is an intrinsic Gregorian sound you could probably buy a sample pack or maybe some recordings of Gregorian chant. Seriously though... Its just a way of organising voices and perhaps some characteristic acoustics which could be simulated using a convolution reverb. Maybe none of this really matters and you just want a Gregorian chant vsti.

I believe that Gregorian Chant is also characterized by the scales used in the music, and also the fact that it is monotonous. You should be able to pull it off with any male choir as previously stated.

I believe that Gregorian Chant is also characterized by the scales used in the music, and also the fact that it is monotonous. You should be able to pull it off with any male choir as previously stated.

Gregorian Chant is NOT monotonous--if by that you meant "boring." (It is monophonic--one line melody, no counterpoint.) Listen to it as pure, highly evolved melody, which is exactly what it is. Each chant evolved over hundreds of years of daily chanting and each chant is a miniature composition that soars and drops, sets up tension, and resolves in deliciously modal cadences. The melodies are so solid they formed the "bass line," so to speak, for the first Western melodic counterpoint (beginning about 1000 AD through about 1400, and still used by composers as a device until 1600). Not boring!

Gregorian Chant established the Western scale. But it's modal, with any one chant based on a different mode in the scale. So you can play them on a modern keyboard, more or less.

Steve

Just download some Gregorian Chant mp3s and rip them up into Simpler or Sampler or Kontakt.

Stevee00 wrote:

I believe that Gregorian Chant is also characterized by the scales used in the music, and also the fact that it is monotonous. You should be able to pull it off with any male choir as previously stated.

Gregorian Chant is NOT monotonous--if by that you meant "boring." (It is monophonic--one line melody, no counterpoint.) Listen to it as pure, highly evolved melody, which is exactly what it is. Each chant evolved over hundreds of years of daily chanting and each chant is a miniature composition that soars and drops, sets up tension, and resolves in deliciously modal cadences. The melodies are so solid they formed the "bass line," so to speak, for the first Western melodic counterpoint (beginning about 1000 AD through about 1400, and still used by composers as a device until 1600). Not boring!

Gregorian Chant established the Western scale. But it's modal, with any one chant based on a different mode in the scale. So you can play them on a modern keyboard, more or less.

Steve

Hahaha monophonic was the word I was looking for, thanks

Oops. Never mind.