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MIDI and sysex

Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 8:19 am
by noisemonkey
Please can the next version of Ableton please have sysex support so that I can use a www.ctrlr.org panel to control my old synth as without that ctlr won't work. There's a topic about this in their forum here : http://ctrlr.org/forums/topic/anyone-us ... #post-5635

This means I can't use it as : More than 3/4 of that microwave XT monstrumWave panel is sysex stuff, all of the dumps are sysex, wavetables, waveforms, even programs, rendering the microwave synths pretty useless in live unless you want to just use it to automate filter or fm modulation sweeps…

I really love live for AUDIO and in the box stuff but it would be great if they could sort this out so I can incorporate my h/w more efficiently.

Re: MIDI and sysex

Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 10:09 pm
by msepsis
+1 on this request!
It's asinine that one of today's apparent leading DAWs does NOT support SysEx in any way.
Is there some justifiable reason for this other than that the developers aren't considering musicians with outboard gear and just assumes everyone uses virtual software synths exclusively?

can you say "cop out"?

Re: MIDI and sysex

Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 11:24 am
by daichtrax
i would really like to see sysex as well

if nothing else, allow sysex from max 4 live.

m4l is brilliant. right now i am cobbled in live because m4l sysex out hits a brick wall.

Re: MIDI and sysex

Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 7:08 pm
by Muzik 4 Machines
plus 1 gazillion, i want to record automation for my hardware vintage synths that only understand SYSEX, plus i want to be able to use live to dump memories

Re: MIDI and sysex

Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 2:15 am
by miekwave
noisemonkey wrote:Please can the next version of Ableton please have sysex support so that I can use a http://www.ctrlr.org panel to control my old synth as without that ctlr won't work. There's a topic about this in their forum here : http://ctrlr.org/forums/topic/anyone-us ... #post-5635

This means I can't use it as : More than 3/4 of that microwave XT monstrumWave panel is sysex stuff, all of the dumps are sysex, wavetables, waveforms, even programs, rendering the microwave synths pretty useless in live unless you want to just use it to automate filter or fm modulation sweeps…

I really love live for AUDIO and in the box stuff but it would be great if they could sort this out so I can incorporate my h/w more efficiently.
+1 trazillion

Re: MIDI and sysex

Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 9:45 am
by cqma
Yes, Sysex editing directly from Ableton would be wonderful.
But VSTs that transmit Sysex are working. I'm using a vst to control my MKS-50 via Sysex and it runs fine.

Re: MIDI and sysex

Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 5:44 pm
by Muzik 4 Machines
yes, but it can'T record it, so i cant use my pg to record the automation, that's what pissing me off a bit, that many sliders that i can't use

Re: MIDI and sysex

Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 12:20 pm
by calande
So true...I'm disappointed not to be able to record the knob motions of my Drehbank control surface. The sysex data is filtered out :|
Any idea when Sysex will be integrated to Live?

Re: MIDI and sysex

Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2013 3:14 pm
by regretfullySaid
+1 brazillion

Re: MIDI and sysex

Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 11:26 am
by pechnatunk
+1 x Graham's number.

Also - NRPN CC output

and while you're at it, why not output CV signals (with the appropriate audio interface) - Numerology and Expert Sleepers is looking very cool right now, but its OSX only so fill that market gap please.

Re: MIDI and sysex

Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 11:56 am
by calande
Still, I don't know how to set all my instruments at the beginning of my tunes. I'm used to reserving a 4-beat bar to send all my SysEx messages to set all my instruments before sending any keys. CTRL or M4L plugins don't seem to enable to send individual SysEx messages at the beginning of a score.

Re: MIDI and sysex

Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2013 6:00 am
by msepsis
Wow. So nice to see further pushes on this request here. I requested this for fruity loops back in 2001 and got nearly beat the hell up over the internet.

Re: MIDI and sysex

Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 10:40 am
by staplesyrup
daichtrax wrote:i would really like to see sysex as well

if nothing else, allow sysex from max 4 live.

m4l is brilliant. right now i am cobbled in live because m4l sysex out hits a brick wall.

You can use the lh_midiout object to send sysex out from M4L to any midi port. I have several synths under sysex control using M4L no problems.

Re: MIDI and sysex

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 2:51 pm
by daichtrax
staplesyrup wrote:
You can use the lh_midiout object to send sysex out from M4L to any midi port. I have several synths under sysex control using M4L no problems.
do they work w/x64?

Re: MIDI and sysex

Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2013 7:09 am
by HyperVec
+1 :| I wish this feature in next Live releases too!