Re: Giving up drugs - it's easy!
Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 11:28 pm
^ just know this...
once you read the book, you can never unread the book.
ever.
once you read the book, you can never unread the book.
ever.
ever!H20nly wrote:once you read the book, you can never unread the book.
ever.
funken wrote: I gave up a daily weed habit 10 years ago, cigs 3 years ago, and alcohol a week ago.
funken wrote: I gave up a daily weed habit 10 years ago, cigs 3 years ago, and alcohol a week ago.
...no, they act on different receptors to the best of my knowledge.funken wrote:Heroin, cannabis, alcohol, smoking, cocaine. They are all drugs. There is no big difference between them really. They all act on the same brain receptors and reward pathways in fact.
...they are easy to give up for some - to say they are easy to give up for every addict is ignoring the multifactorial nature of addiction and different circumstances facing each individual who is addicted.funken wrote:Actually they are all easy to give up. The addiction is 99% in the mind, and is cause by beliefs that are false.
funken wrote:note - it is said that stopping alcohol suddenly can be dangerous to a small percentage of alcoholics. I will try to find out more.
I don't know anything about that...funken wrote:The Royal College of Psychiatrists do recommend Allen Carr's Easy Way to Control Alcohol book.
andydes wrote:Holy Shit, Funken.
You get a sponsorship deal or something?
If not and this thread is the product of a healthy narcotic free mind, I want no part of it, thanks.
I was waiting for someone to do that.cmcpress wrote:
stop smoking! go on! stop!
H20nly wrote:because he can't piss on your head.funken wrote:Then why post on my thread?nathannn wrote: If there was an ignore list you would be on it.
funken wrote: I gave up a daily weed habit 10 years ago, cigs 3 years ago, and alcohol a week ago.
+1 - you can easily do 7 days if even if you aren't totally committed yet - the demons haven't started gnashing their teeth by then... sobriety isn't about stopping, it's about staying stopped. That means not starting again when things get stressful, or when you haven't had a drink for a few days and start fooling yourself that it won't hurt to have just one or two.Machinesworking wrote: Funken, it's obvious that you haven't been sober that long.
this is absolutely right and crucial for people to understand. But one thing I will say, regardless of your make up, replacing it with something else makes success magnitudes more likely.Someone with the genetic makeup will take the same drug, (alcohol is a great example) and not crave it in the way that someone else with the same psychological makeup will. There is a distinct reason physically why there are different kinds of problem drinkers, because they physically react to the drug in different ways. Someone can have all the genetic markers for addiction and not be an addict, because they don't have the psychological problems that make getting involved in addiction attractive.
Yep. I've been to a few AA meetings over the years and it just never gelled with me. I'm just not a person who enjoys sitting in a group talking about what a fuckup I am. And then you get these older guys who've been sober for 30 years and still use it as some kind of crutch to excuse shitty behaviour... I've actually heard these people describe how they were a dick to their wife or something and say it's because they are an alcoholic, depsite not having drunk in 30 years.. I just found that weird... yeah I get the thing about soul searching and acknowledging the things that would normally make you drink and finding different ways to deal with it, but that just didn't grab me..All methods can be successful. ..
The real question is always how many people attempted to use the method espoused and gave up?
well this makes a nice change after that other thread - a post where I have agreed with every word you've said!That question always has about the same answer, so if it's reworded to included little things like "Did you prescribe to the methods we outlined?" then the "study" can throw out people who didn't "complete" the program. I can guarantee you that not a single program would have an over 10% success rate if they included anyone who spent a day signing up/reading/joining the method.
The magic bullet is you, no one else, nothing you read and nothing you subscribe to can stop you from doing what you want to do.
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