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Hi everybody.

I have a vocal clip and I'm trying to make it lower, but all of the tips I find on how to do this involve transposing the clip, which I don't want to do because it changes the key of the vocals. I'm trying to make the vocals lower or higher without going off key.

Like this (start at 0:41):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mX46e4GtlXM

Any help is appreciated! Thanks in advance.

Hi. They are transposing the clip using pitch automation in clip view.

I tried that. I dont know how to explain it well because I'm not well-versed in music theory but doing that changes the notes that are being sung so it sounds off-tune. What I want to do is make the voice sound like it's fading to a person with more timbre in their voice. Does that make sense?

Formant maybe? I didn't listen to the clip yet. There are a lot of different kinds of ways to apply formant.

Also, + or - an octave stays in key, but I didn't listen to the example... so I might be way off in that option.

harveystewart wrote:I tried that. I dont know how to explain it well because I'm not well-versed in music theory but doing that changes the notes that are being sung so it sounds off-tune. What I want to do is make the voice sound like it's fading to a person with more timbre in their voice. Does that make sense?

You have to find the notes that are in key and transpose to those notes.

Download the free KeroVee vst.

On the top set 'Amount' to zero. This turns off tuning.

On the Tone 1 row of knobs, automate the leftmost 'Formant Shift' knob.

harveystewart wrote:Hi everybody.

I have a vocal clip and I'm trying to make it lower, but all of the tips I find on how to do this involve transposing the clip, which I don't want to do because it changes the key of the vocals. I'm trying to make the vocals lower or higher without going off key.

Like this (start at 0:41):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mX46e4GtlXM

Any help is appreciated! Thanks in advance.

i think is not transpose, and yes, some filter. test low/high pass and a little bit of phaser/flanger

I cannot open the video here. But check ReaTune in Reaper. Its not avail as VST but you can edit it in Reaper and reimport to Live. Or try a octaver plugin with a second voice set to -3 or -5.

http://www.reaper.fm/index.php

what about EQ? depending on how subtle you want it to be (sorry can't listen to the clip right now) maybe you could blend it by using multiple instances of EQ8 to cut and boost.

I literally tried my suggestion in comparison to the video and it was near identical. Aside from different quality levels of the actual device in use (I'm sure they didn't use a free vst).

They probably just used a vocal fx plug or hardware unit.