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need help printing out a chord shape chart

Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 7:42 pm
by Dmerricka
Here is a idea to learn chord shapes on push. Load this chord templet for chord clips the key of C http://forum.producertech.com/forum_pos ... or-ableton and play it back. Once you learn this you'd be able to play in all keys.
Does anyone know how to make a PDF showing each chord let up on the grid? I've seen people do this on here but nothing showing all the chord shapes.

Re: need help printing out a chord shape chart

Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 9:29 am
by irrelevance
Dmerricka wrote:Here is a idea to learn chord shapes on push. Load this chord templet for chord clips the key of C http://forum.producertech.com/forum_pos ... or-ableton and play it back. Once you learn this you'd be able to play in all keys.
Does anyone know how to make a PDF showing each chord let up on the grid? I've seen people do this on here but nothing showing all the chord shapes.
If you want to know how to create a pdf your asking in the wrong forum I think, at least I cant help with that. If you want to figure out chord shapes on push just draw in the notes of the chord in live sequencer and playback on push to see which leds light up, take a note move on to the next. :wink: fwir the columns move up/down in 4ths, rows are in scale i.e tone/semitone steps diagonal is 5ths, 1 up 3 along from tonic (knight chess move) 6ths, 2 up 1 along from tonic (other knight chess move) is the octave.

Re: need help printing out a chord shape chart

Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 12:25 pm
by re:dream
Just do it as a table in Word, and them save as PDF.

Re: need help printing out a chord shape chart

Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 12:28 pm
by re:dream
As far as I understand it, the chord shapes will depend on what key you are in. It is only in chromatic mode that you will have the same shape for the same chord.

What would be cool would be to build an interactive Push chord tool as a flash (or similar) website.

Re: need help printing out a chord shape chart

Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 12:50 pm
by Because789
As far as I understand it, the chord shapes do not depend on what key you are in. Therefore in key single position playing is possible: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNgZ-SZuRP0

Re: need help printing out a chord shape chart

Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 1:15 pm
by re:dream
He's actually changing the scales while he is playing, which is a slightly different issue.

Anyway, I am pretty certain that when I am out of chromatic and in a particular key (e.g. blues) the same shape produces different intervals and chords in different places on the Push.

Re: need help printing out a chord shape chart

Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 4:34 pm
by Because789
This topic is actually totally not my domain, but the one shape per chord thing is a big selling point of Push. On https://www.ableton.com/en/push/ they advertise it with a picture of a Push in In Key mode and with the addition "The symmetrical pad grid means melody and chord patterns can be played using the same fingerings in every key, and key changes happen at the touch of a button."

Re: need help printing out a chord shape chart

Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 5:23 pm
by re:dream
Maybe we are talking past each other. Or maybe I am expressing myself badly.

Melody fingerings are the same in every key of a particular scale, yes. So whether I play given melody in A harmonic minor or in F sharp harmonic minor, makes no difference, as long as I start on the same place relative to the root.

But any given pattern / shape will invoke different harmonic intervals and melodies at different places on the grid, in every scale except the chromatic one.

Re: need help printing out a chord shape chart

Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 10:43 am
by Lostbeat
ive made a push chord shape reference for both chromatic mode and in key mode.
enjoy. theres a free pdf download https://www.lostbeataudio.com/shop/push ... references

Image

video explanation of in key mode
https://vimeo.com/75372536

Re: need help printing out a chord shape chart

Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2013 12:27 am
by samsteeno
Lostbeat wrote:ive made a push chord shape reference for both chromatic mode and in key mode.
enjoy. theres a free pdf download from facebook.com/lostbeat - under free downloads
or here https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid ... =3&theater

video explanation of in key mode
https://vimeo.com/75372536
Lostbeat = Legend!

I was the colourblind guy talking to you on Facebook about custom Push colours! :)
Still waiting for my Push to arrive in the mail, haha... So keen (and a little impatient)!