NI Maschine as VST inside Ableton won't sync

[davros303]

I've seen this issue posted a couple of times on the NI and Ableton forums but none of the fixes work for me.

When I run Maschine inside an existing Abelton project, Maschine runs about 50 ms too fast. The Track Sync function in Ableton makes no change to this, no matter what value I enter. On the NI forum, a tech advised playing with the sync offset values for Maschine in standalone mode, then reloading it inside Ableton. This made no difference whatsoever. I saw another post here that said "Tick the Sync to External Midi" option in standalone mode, this also made no difference.

The only way I've been able to get them to sync, is a crazy workaround sending the audio from the Maschine channel into a second audio channel in Live, and then applying 50ms of track sync delay to the newly created channel.

For reference, I'm running Live 8.3 and Maschine 1.8.1.

Also - adding Maschine to a brand new Ableton project works fine...

[yur2die4]

Are any fx or instruments loaded in Maschine when you have this problem?

Are you doing any kind of audio routing in Live to or from Maschine or channel? Or is it simply Maschine channel to Master channel?

I've usually only had that problem when loading certain vsts. Especially fx like guitar rig or convolution reverbs. Or when routing too and from return channels and other audio channels.

[davros303]

No FX loaded in Maschine, just loading a kit. No tricky routing to or from Maschine - not even send returns - just Maschine running straight to the Master channel.

I have Guitar Rig running in this project but on a completely separate channel.