Hi everyone,
I would like to add some big filter delay to some techno stabs/chords but I am really weak with this plugin...
Here is an example of what I am trying to do : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SB5h5Z8peDs
I have no problem to design the sound or play the chords but the problem comes from the delay itself.
Can you give me some tips about it? Or tell me how to program the ableton's native filter delay plugin to get a similar result?
Thank you!
Ableton - Filter Delay for Techno/House stabs/chords
Re: Ableton - Filter Delay for Techno/House stabs/chords
Try chaining multiple filter delays in a row, with the first having a shorter delay time and the next having a longer. Experiment from there.
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Re: Ableton - Filter Delay for Techno/House stabs/chords
Gonna give it a try now... How should I set up the other parameters?!
Re: Ableton - Filter Delay for Techno/House stabs/chords
I think you have to use your ears on this one. No point in someone giving you a list of parameters without being there to hear the results.
Try as the above poster advised. Chain two or three together for starters and set the first one up so the delay is to your liking. Then mute it and set the second one up and so forth. Try unmuting them and see how they sound together and adjust to taste.
Try as the above poster advised. Chain two or three together for starters and set the first one up so the delay is to your liking. Then mute it and set the second one up and so forth. Try unmuting them and see how they sound together and adjust to taste.
Re: Ableton - Filter Delay for Techno/House stabs/chords
hey guys! I've been working on this for weeks now but the result is still far from what I am expecting...
Tried to chain some Ableton's native "Filter Delays" but didn't come with anything good... I want it to give life to my stabs, not to totally change the melody.
Tried to chain some Ableton's native "Filter Delays" but didn't come with anything good... I want it to give life to my stabs, not to totally change the melody.
Re: Ableton - Filter Delay for Techno/House stabs/chords
LOL I have been thinking about this tune a lot lately and I think it has to be my all time fav chord stab groove. Heard it for the first in years only just the other day.
I've tried it many times and have come pretty close. I struggle more with the sound than anything else.
I think the key is the the actual groove to begin with. If you have the notes laid out in the correct rhythm then your more than half way there. It sounds to me like Dave used a single delay tap with the btm end rolled of. Try maybe a filter delay with just the left channel on and filter the bass out, play around with the delay time till it feels right. Then add a ping pong delay, just a tiny bit that you can just about notice, group them together with a little reverb in there also and then mix with the dry signal.
Hopefully that might work for you and thanks for reminding me of this great tune and that I can finally find it on youtube
I've tried it many times and have come pretty close. I struggle more with the sound than anything else.
I think the key is the the actual groove to begin with. If you have the notes laid out in the correct rhythm then your more than half way there. It sounds to me like Dave used a single delay tap with the btm end rolled of. Try maybe a filter delay with just the left channel on and filter the bass out, play around with the delay time till it feels right. Then add a ping pong delay, just a tiny bit that you can just about notice, group them together with a little reverb in there also and then mix with the dry signal.
Hopefully that might work for you and thanks for reminding me of this great tune and that I can finally find it on youtube
Re: Ableton - Filter Delay for Techno/House stabs/chords
There are a number of things to consider.
1. His delay doesn't happen at every stab, only certain ones while the stabs continue over it. This would probably best be done with an automated Send parameter to a return housing a delay effect.
2. Not sure but maybe the delay has a specific number of delays. Some delays allow you to designate a number of taps for the delay. Live delays just use a feedback parameter, which is more like a fade than a count of taps. You can maybe overcome this by using autopan, but really it is kind of a weird thing to deal with. You can probably also do similarly with multiple delay instances, but I wouldn't bother
3. For the filtering, I can't tell if they are just filtered as a whole or if they are feedback filtered. Personally, I'm a big fan of feedback. You can have for instance a simple delay on a return channel (100% wet, feedback at ZERO), and an autofilter after it (add a slight amount of modulation with the LFO, very slight... the movement keeps the adding up of same-frequency material under control), then activate the SEND knob on that Return channel so that it can send back into itself. Be very careful how high you set that particular knob or you will have squelching and screaming and bass and everything and your speakers will hate you, your ears will hate you, your neighbor's will be glad you got an piece of your own medicine, your headphones will make your skull quivver, etc)
Yeah
1. His delay doesn't happen at every stab, only certain ones while the stabs continue over it. This would probably best be done with an automated Send parameter to a return housing a delay effect.
2. Not sure but maybe the delay has a specific number of delays. Some delays allow you to designate a number of taps for the delay. Live delays just use a feedback parameter, which is more like a fade than a count of taps. You can maybe overcome this by using autopan, but really it is kind of a weird thing to deal with. You can probably also do similarly with multiple delay instances, but I wouldn't bother
3. For the filtering, I can't tell if they are just filtered as a whole or if they are feedback filtered. Personally, I'm a big fan of feedback. You can have for instance a simple delay on a return channel (100% wet, feedback at ZERO), and an autofilter after it (add a slight amount of modulation with the LFO, very slight... the movement keeps the adding up of same-frequency material under control), then activate the SEND knob on that Return channel so that it can send back into itself. Be very careful how high you set that particular knob or you will have squelching and screaming and bass and everything and your speakers will hate you, your ears will hate you, your neighbor's will be glad you got an piece of your own medicine, your headphones will make your skull quivver, etc)
Yeah