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This dual monitor business. What am I not getting??

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 4:29 am
by murgatroid
I don't get this. Whats the big deal. Screen sets. Why can't you do screen sets? For example, with Logic, I like to stretch the arrangement or the piano roll, mixer, or whatever all across both monitors, as well as a million other configs and save them as screen sets.

Now with Live 9.1, it seems I can't do that...well maybe the session view might stay stretched but the arrangement page won't. It'll simply jump onto a single monitor when switching views. I can't even, say, stretch both views across both monitors and save it as a temple cause when I'd reopen they just snap to one monitor.

At least in v9, I can stretch the window across both monitors and it'll stay that way as a template. Granted you need to switch to either session or arrangement as always but it does it really matter?? Nice and roomy, ability to see tons of clip tracks or bars in an arrangement, or, a session and arrangement squeezed on a single monitor? Quite frankly the latter sucks balls.

And 2 monitor support is supposed to be some big whoopdee do???

Btw, I also understand you can swap out the arrangement on its own monitor for the midi and audio editors I think. But I can't figure that one out... because there's no manual that I can see for 9.1 or no bloody screen sets. Grrrrrrr

Anyway, am I just a dumb novice here and am oblivious to the benefits of the glorious 2 monitor support?

Re: This dual monitor business. What am I not getting??

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 4:33 am
by re:dream
Feedback on beta version is perhaps best posted in beta forum?

Re: This dual monitor business. What am I not getting??

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 6:22 am
by jestermgee
The Finn wrote:Feedback on beta version is perhaps best posted in beta forum?
Catching on grasshopper.

Re: This dual monitor business. What am I not getting??

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 6:46 am
by re:dream
eh?

Re: This dual monitor business. What am I not getting??

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 6:53 am
by pencilrocket
developer doesn't want you to use that way.

Re: This dual monitor business. What am I not getting??

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 9:38 am
by TheZwut
Granted you need to switch to either session or arrangement as always but it does it really matter??
To me.. yes..

Re: This dual monitor business. What am I not getting??

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 3:33 pm
by murgatroid
The Finn wrote:Feedback on beta version is perhaps best posted in beta forum?
That's true but didn't really think of it as I have the impression that's this 'feature' is fait accompli.

Doubt they're going to be implementing screen sets at this point considering if it took so long just getting this hackneyed 'feature'

Re: This dual monitor business. What am I not getting??

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 5:04 pm
by login
Then use Logic and be happy.

Re: This dual monitor business. What am I not getting??

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 5:16 pm
by agent314
Why be happy when you can bitch about it instead of working around a mild inconvenience?

Re: This dual monitor business. What am I not getting??

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 5:16 pm
by murgatroid
login wrote:Then use Logic and be happy.

I am. Doesn't mean Live has to be so primitive in that regard

Re: This dual monitor business. What am I not getting??

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 6:54 pm
by login
IMO the other hosts are the ones primitive in their GUI.

Would be interesting to know what % of Live users really have a use for this feature.

Re: This dual monitor business. What am I not getting??

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 10:13 pm
by jestermgee
Lets not start a war of the DAW again.

I have made a few suggestions to Ableton in regards to how the multi-monitor setup may be better accomplished. As with anyone using a Beta and part of the Beta program, it's a good idea to use the Beta forum and post comments and suggestions direct to the Devs rather than the community. If enough people agree and voice their opinions in the right places, things will get done and the 9.1 will hopefully prove more stable than prev releases because of this.

Re: This dual monitor business. What am I not getting??

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 10:24 pm
by murgatroid
If ya'll think my screen set suggestion is something that is possible to implement at this stage, then I'll shoot beta team a note

Re: This dual monitor business. What am I not getting??

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 10:51 pm
by hacktheplanet
Disclaimer: I am using Live 8 and have not even tried 9 or 9.1. I am just a curious geek. ;)

What is your dual display mode? Is it set to something like "extend desktop" or just separate monitors?
Like, is your graphics card recognizing both displays as one big display, or as two separate displays?

Re: This dual monitor business. What am I not getting??

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 11:16 pm
by login
hacktheplanet wrote:Disclaimer: I am using Live 8 and have not even tried 9 or 9.1. I am just a curious geek. ;)

What is your dual display mode? Is it set to something like "extend desktop" or just separate monitors?
Like, is your graphics card recognizing both displays as one big display, or as two separate displays?

In fact it's a second window so you don't need two monitors.