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Posted: **Sat Nov 16, 2013 12:37 pm**

Hi, I would like to play the Push as Keyboard device. Here are two suggestions of how to add Keyboard Scales to Push:

Keyboard Chromatic Mode

Keyboard In Key Mode

Would be nice if you will add those two modes for all Keyboarders! Thx.

You could even make a split scale (make two halfes out of the scene) so that users could play a wider range of the "keyboard" and adjust the upper and lower scenario by their range of occuring notes:

This would of course also work for the In Key Scale.

Here's another idea: When Push is in In Key mode, make two buttons on Push easily change a note to the lower or higher note (while pressing the note(s)), so that notes not in Scale (the black notes on the keyboard for example) can be played without having to switch to the Chromatic mode. You could therefore use the empty "keys" under the Push display when in Device mode for example.

Posted: **Sat Nov 16, 2013 6:44 pm**

Really good idea, good suggestion Udo!

Posted: **Sun Nov 17, 2013 12:57 pm**

this would be very nice indeed.
Did you already write a feature request ?
+1

Posted: **Mon Nov 18, 2013 12:50 am**

Fucking great idea.
I think Julien Bayle has some instructions on how to add scales to Push, don't if it would be enough though.

Posted: **Mon Nov 18, 2013 1:13 am**

Posted: **Mon Nov 18, 2013 1:57 am**

+1 also

Posted: **Tue Nov 19, 2013 9:50 am**

I looked into the Python files for Push, but the only part I could find relating to scales at all is the following:

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MUSICAL_MODES = ['Major',
 [0,
  2,
  4,
  5,
  7,
  9,
  11],
 'Minor',
 [0,
  2,
  3,
  5,
  7,
  8,
  10],
 'Dorian',
 [0,
  2,
  3,
  5,
  7,
  9,
  10],
 'Mixolydian',
 [0,
  2,
  4,
  5,
  7,
  9,
  10],
 'Lydian',
 [0,
  2,
  4,
  6,
  7,
  9,
  11],
 'Phrygian',
 [0,
  1,
  3,
  5,
  7,
  8,
  10],
 'Locrian',
 [0,
  1,
  3,
  5,
  6,
  8,
  10],
 'Diminished',
 [0,
  1,
  3,
  4,
  6,
  7,
  9,
  10],
 'Whole-half',
 [0,
  2,
  3,
  5,
  6,
  8,
  9,
  11],
 'Whole Tone',
 [0,
  2,
  4,
  6,
  8,
  10],
 'Minor Blues',
 [0,
  3,
  5,
  6,
  7,
  10],
 'Minor Pentatonic',
 [0,
  3,
  5,
  7,
  10],
 'Major Pentatonic',
 [0,
  2,
  4,
  7,
  9],
 'Harmonic Minor',
 [0,
  2,
  3,
  5,
  7,
  8,
  11],
 'Melodic Minor',
 [0,
  2,
  3,
  5,
  7,
  9,
  11],
 'Super Locrian',
 [0,
  1,
  3,
  4,
  6,
  8,
  10],
 'Bhairav',
 [0,
  1,
  4,
  5,
  7,
  8,
  11],
 'Hungarian Minor',
 [0,
  2,
  3,
  6,
  7,
  8,
  11],
 'Minor Gypsy',
 [0,
  1,
  4,
  5,
  7,
  8,
  10],
 'Hirojoshi',
 [0,
  2,
  3,
  7,
  8],
 'In-Sen',
 [0,
  1,
  5,
  7,
  10],
 'Iwato',
 [0,
  1,
  5,
  6,
  10],
 'Kumoi',
 [0,
  2,
  3,
  7,
  9],
 'Pelog',
 [0,
  1,
  3,
  4,
  7,
  8],
 'Spanish',
 [0,
  1,
  3,
  4,
  5,
  6,
  8,
  10]]

I was hoping for tables in a 8x8 format, where you would only have to change the note names (like Lives device mapping is achieved). But no such luck. As far as I understand it, this either means that the numbers are lines in some table (then each number would have to contain the same row of key assignments-easy to check if you have Push), or it is some variable in an algorithm somewhere. I don't have Python knowledge, so this would be hard to solve for me. But maybe others could...?

Posted: **Tue Nov 19, 2013 9:52 am**

Valiumdupeuple wrote:Fucking great idea.
I think Julien Bayle has some instructions on how to add scales to Push, don't if it would be enough though.

Do you have a link?

Posted: **Tue Nov 19, 2013 10:14 am**

TomViolenz wrote:Do you have a link?

http://julienbayle.net/ableton-push/#scales

But I don't think it's (only) a matter of adding new scales. As far as I can see is the second layout a simple major scale, but in a different order. We already can choose between different note orders. If you press Shift while in Scales mode and you e.g. choose Sequent, you got no reoccuring notes at all.

So I think at least for the second layout it would be a matter of adding a new order (something like 7th> ???).

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