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Live + Push for breakbeat mashing ?
Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 8:18 am
by BC
Hi
Thinking of investing in Live 9 update & Push.
Can this combination be used for playing with breakbeat samples on the fly e.g. chopping, stuttering etc. ?
I know Push is not really set up for use with audio, but presumably something could be done with Live's sample player(s) in the Session view ?
Thanks
Re: Live + Push for breakbeat mashing ?
Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 9:16 am
by panten
I think I mention this way too often round here but PXT-Live is amazing and your best bet for this sort of thing.
>click here<
It's all quantized so it's great for mashing around to come up with new variations. It can all be re-sampled of course to be distributed on the arrangement view.
Re: Live + Push for breakbeat mashing ?
Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 9:40 am
by TomViolenz
panten wrote:I think I mention this way too often round here but PXT-Live is amazing and your best bet for this sort of thing.
>click here<
It's all quantized so it's great for mashing around to come up with new variations. It can all be re-sampled of course to be distributed on the arrangement view.
I'm truly baffled by what stray has done with the PXT script!
To the OP: I'm sure you could work with the normal Push script and achieve what you want with Sampler and the new parameter lock of the step sequencer. But you should really consider getting PXT!
Re: Live + Push for breakbeat mashing ?
Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 9:41 am
by BC
Wow - that seems impressive, but quite deep. Is it easy to get to grips with ?
Can my original question be dealt with using Push alone (e.g. no PXT-Live) ?
Re: Live + Push for breakbeat mashing ?
Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 9:57 am
by Because789
BC wrote:Wow - that seems impressive, but quite deep. Is it easy to get to grips with ?
And it will even get more impressive with
PXT-Live Plus. It definitely needs some time to learn, you wont have the full enjoyment the first day you play with it. But it is worth the time!
BC wrote:Can my original question be dealt with using Push alone (e.g. no PXT-Live) ?
Yes, no, it all depends on the exact workflow you have in mind.
Re: Live + Push for breakbeat mashing ?
Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 9:58 am
by panten
Well you could re-sample a drum loop that you've created, then use the 'Slice to new MIDI track' function to chop it into slices on a new Drum Rack which you can then use to Mash away to your heart's content. hmm
This workflow isn't quite as real-time though and you'll have to use your Mouse.
The hardest part about learning PXT-Live is knowing the button combination presses to get to the 'Mode' that you want. Once you've committed them to muscle memory it starts to flow. Each Mode is pretty straight forward once you've navigated there.
The ability to mash on 64 Drum Rack pads AT THE SAME TIME is amazing, especially if they are filled with slices of chopped and glitched drum loops that you've re-sampled and sliced yourself.
Re: Live + Push for breakbeat mashing ?
Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 10:47 am
by BC
I should say that I would be at the bottom of a very steep learning curve, both with Live & Push.
I have Live 6, but never really got to grips with it (partly because didn't spend enough time with it).
So am pondering whether to really go for it & try to create music with Live 9 + Push ... although I don't have that much spare time to play around with it.
But the idea of being liberated from mouse + keyboard is seriously tempting me..
$20 for PXT is a no-brainer, but £628 for Push+Live (20% discount period) is taking some deliberation
I love many genres of music (and play keyboards + guitar), but would probably focus on electronic / breakbeat / jungle with Live.