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Hello,
lets say I have a live dial with the Range 20. 20000. and a step size of 1

If I now move it with the mouse it increments as expected by 1.

If I however tweak a know on Push it no longer increments by 1.

Is there a workaround to get fine tuning on Push working either ?

Since Push' Knobs are Encoders it should be possible, no?

Cheers
AnSolas

Don't own Push but I guess its encoders deliver midi CC values ? (0-127)

madlab wrote: I guess its encoders deliver midi CC values ? (0-127)

I don't think so. It has Encoders not Potis, so it should just in/decrement data by sending an offset,
eg +1 -1

Did you try setting the step size to 19980?

stringtapper wrote:Did you try setting the step size to 19980?

no I try...

why ?

Actually it's not called "step size" but just "Steps" in the Inspector.

And the reason is that 19980 should force the dial to increment by single integers between 20. and 20000.

stringtapper wrote:Actually it's not called "step size" but just "Steps" in the Inspector.

And the reason is that 19980 should force the dial to increment by single integers between 20. and 20000.

Anyways, it still jumps form 20 straight to 176

I don't have a Push to test this. Can you make a [ctlin] object and monitor the output with a number box to see what the knob is sending?

stringtapper wrote:I don't have a Push to test this. Can you make a [ctlin] object and monitor the output with a number box to see what the knob is sending?

Like this?
http://screencast.com/t/Ala7A72S95b0


I just turn the encoders clock and counter clock wise.

Looks like it just sends ~1 and ~127 depending on the tweaking speed?

Hmm yes, now that I think about it I have run into similar problems with encoders sending values like that. I will have to go back through some patches with my controller at home to see if I ever found a solution to that.

stringtapper wrote:Hmm yes, now that I think about it I have run into similar problems with encoders sending values like that. I will have to go back through some patches with my controller at home to see if I ever found a solution to that.

Thank you very much for your time !

Well the encoders on the APC40 seem to be sending incremental values just fine. I think it might have been my Axiom controller that was giving me similar jumpy results. I'll dig it out and check.

The encoders on the Push are sending out float values. I've found this to be extremely annoying while patching. I haven't found a good solution yet either. However, you might try a [scale] to translate the values of 0.-127. But that didn't work for me because I wanted to "see" the value on the Push (not 0-127).