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Mac Pro 32bit machine

Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 9:24 pm
by fastfx
Hi,

My Mac Pro is a 1,1 2007 - it's a 32bit machine, running lion (can't update the OS anymore) so what I'm wondering is, does using ableton in 64bit mode make any difference?
I do use it in 64bit mode no problem, but I'm wondering if it's actually utilising the ram I have.

I am aware my Mac Pro is ancient and old!

Re: Mac Pro 32bit machine

Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 11:49 pm
by steko

Re: Mac Pro 32bit machine

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 12:16 pm
by fastfx
Ah yes I know the processors are 64bit but that 1,1 thing apparently means the machine itself isnt.

Re: Mac Pro 32bit machine

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 2:31 pm
by tecgen
OSX 10.9 Mavericks should be possible...
http://batmanofzurenarh.wordpress.com/2 ... ac-pro-11/

Re: Mac Pro 32bit machine

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 2:54 pm
by fastfx
I wouldn't put mavericks on it purely for all the bad stuff I've heard about it. But mountain lion would be nice

Re: Mac Pro 32bit machine

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 3:39 pm
by arafel
I run lots of 'old' Mac machines...

Activity Monitor is your friend...
Fire it up, Run Live and see what it is actually using...

If its not using the 64 bit potential..., and your plugs are compatible then IMHO switch back to 32 bit.

I still got a PPC G5 powermac just for some sounds our of Atmosphere!

Re: Mac Pro 32bit machine

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 5:56 pm
by steko
tomf wrote:Ah yes I know the processors are 64bit but that 1,1 thing apparently means the machine itself isnt.
I wanted to leave it as simple as possible...


Your Mac Pro runs Live 64-bit.

The only thing that's not 64-bit on your machine is the 32-bit EFI firmware (the code that runs to boot the Mac).

With 32-bit firmware, you can't boot into the 64-bit kernel. (= no Mountain Lion & Mavericks, unless you hack the EFI)


There can be some speed gains with the 64-bit kernel, but not for Live & stuff. So don't worry.



Even if you can't or don't boot the OS X (Snow Leopard or Lion) kernel into 64-bit mode, you can run 64-bit apps as 64-bit, and they can take advantage of all the memory in the machine.



BTW a simple look at Activity Monitor would show you that… -> Kind-column: Intel (64-Bit)

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