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All I want to do is automate a simple fade-out then back-in effect for a part of my song, but I can't find it anywhere in the perimeters in arrangement view. I was using an auto filter as a temporary solution so I could continue the momentum of making the song but its not the same cause you can hear the cutoff frequency open and close compared to just a simple fade.

Am I just looking in the wrong place? I'm using live 9.0.6 with massive. All I see under mixer is track panning, track volume, X-Fade Assign, and my 2 sends.

If you see the X-fade assign buttons, then the crossfader itself is directly under the volume meter of your master channel.

blakjesus wrote:If you see the X-fade assign buttons, then the crossfader itself is directly under the volume meter of your master channel.

Is there no regular fader? Maybe I'm getting the definition of fading wrong. Like I want a fading volume decay that can just slowly fade in again. I've seen people on youtube and stuff use faders with kind of a sine wave curvature. How do I get that?

Edit: oh oh I see. It just uses the volume perimeter and an automated curve to get that gradual fade in/out effect. This was what I was looking for: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pdXKHH1gHQ

Sorry I'm still new to ableton and figuring stuff out. My badd. But still, its good to know about the crossfaders for future stuff. Thanks though

Now I have another problem. The alt key won't work for the curves. What gives?

Hi, looks like you're mixing up volume automation and fades.

• Volume automation is a property (it's "volume parameter", by the way) of the track. That's what the guy in the video you linked to describes in the first part. Here the alt-modifier works to edit a curve.
• Fades, on the other hand, are actually a property of audio clip boundaries. There is no alt-modifier, but, once you start dragging the fade's starting point, you'll find a point halfway through to the fades other end. This you can grab and determine the slant of the curve.