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I first heard about Kickstarter when Mrs Ron started sending $5 a month to a bunch of hippies living in a big shed in Canada so they could recycle used potato sacks into men's underpants.Or something. It's just the sort of kind but misguided shit the Mrs specialises in so I wasn't unduly concerned. Quite sweet really. Bless her (organic) cotton socks.

In next to no time it seems to have morphed into hedge fund merchant banking on crack. Cunts with more money than I can imagine ever existing in one place are succeeding in getting punters to pony up extortionate sums in advance for some dubious product that may or may not ever come into real life existence, at some flexible and vaguely defined date far in the future on the 'promise' of a free T shirt. I mean. In the pre post-capitalist world at least the greedy bastards had to take something of a risk before they got to trouser the humungous profits. Now consumers are being expected to take on all the financial exposure so millionaires can sit on their fat arses drinking Chablis whilst their tax avoidance specialist lawyers salt away gullible twats money in Bermuda.

What the fuck next? The Ministry of Homeland Security setting up a kickstarter to raise money for a war in Ukraine? $5Bn for a free State. Stretch goal? Gettng Crimea back.

If you want to live the sort of life that gives you the option of sneering down at the likes of me at least have the decency to keep your fingers out of the till until you have actually done something, anything, yourself. It all seems a bit like begging outside the train station before turning up for work late at Uncle Bertie's Financial Services Outsourcing Corporation.

RonaldDumsfeld wrote:What the fuck next? The Ministry of Homeland Security setting up a kickstarter to raise money for a war in Ukraine? $5Bn for a free State. Stretch goal? Gettng Crimea back.

Shit, I wish our tax system existed on kickstarter. Fund the government projects you want to directly.


As far as the rest of your views, how many kickstarter projects were you forced to fund at gun point?

Only the Canadian Hippies and their recycled underwear. So far.

Then I understand your anger.

If you go directly to kickstarter and try to hunt for projects you want to fund then, yeah, it’s pretty upsetting (like the top 10 of any genre on beatport). A lot of things I would value on there I read about from another site that directs you there.

Kickstarter is also becoming a staple of standup comedians because of the ridiculous things you can try to fund on there. You could probably make a successful website that is just dedicated to ridiculous shit on there.

beats me wrote:You could probably make a successful website that is just dedicated to ridiculous shit on there.

Who wants to start the Kickstarter for that site?

I'd buy that for a dollar!

ALL I KNOW IS THAT KICKSTARTER AND CROWDSOURCING ARE RIFE WITH PIECE OF SHIT SMART WATCHES THAT WILL ONLY SET YOU BACK ABOUT $300 EACH.

FFS.


Apple cannot release their watch fast enough. There's nothing quite like a new Apple product that also destroys dreams at the same time.

LoopStationZebra wrote:Apple cannot release their watch fast enough. There's nothing quite like a new Apple product that also destroys dreams at the same time.

Some analyst clown predicts the iWatch will cost $2,000. If that happens then it will be the first time in 3 years that Apple’s stock justifiably plummets. The stock will drop regardless of what Apple announces. I’m just saying this time it would be justified.

Crowd sourcing is an okay-idea.
For people that all have a common idea, they can all come together and pool their resources to make something awesome (The Drutter). Other times, it can become a way for people that don't want to spend their own money to finance their ideas. Sometimes, people can even ask people for money for their own personal interests.
Crowd sourcing can also not work if you don't have enough people that donate or are just to lazy to do it (figures, right?). Take a look at Project Gooseberry for example. At the time this post was written, there were three says left in the campaign, and they had only halfway reached their goal.
https://cloud.blender.org/gooseberry/

I think that if you're going to ask people for money, you should have %15 of the work for it done, or %15 of the materials for it acquired. If you can't do that, than you need to start smaller.

It just depends on who it is, and what they're doing.

Kickstarter was created so Tom Cosm wouldn’t have to come here looking for funding help buying laptops and travelling.

Where is Tom Cosm these days?

I just told you. He's on kickstarter.

beats me wrote:Shit, I wish our tax system existed on kickstarter. Fund the government projects you want to directly.

Pirate Party.

beats me wrote:I just told you. He's on kickstarter.

i need funding for a new project. i am attempting to bag a hottie tonight and cannot afford drinks. how much will you donate so that i can get laid?