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Instrument Rack headache...how would you do that ?
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 2:24 pm
by chapelier fou
So, i would love to make an instrument rack loaded with simplers, in parallel. Lets call the simplers A, B,C..etc. Now i want a knob to fade from A to B, then B to C, etc.
Chain selector with fades won't work since i want to make a drone, so i'll only trig the note once and hold it down.
Help ?
Re: Instrument Rack headache...how would you do that ?
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 2:32 pm
by Tarekith
Not understanding why the chain selector method won't work, you can apply fades to the chains to make the transitions smooth.
Re: Instrument Rack headache...how would you do that ?
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 3:03 pm
by timday
Chains don't trigger if the initial note on is off the end of the chain, if you see what I mean. I tend to always have my chains going the full 128 values and have the fades defining when they peak. Does that make sense?
There's probably a max object somewhere. In fact I know there's a monolake one which lets you switch between chains via programme change messages, which you could probably tie to a macro. This would let you have all the chains full length and not use fades, I think. Don't know as I've never tried it.
Re: Instrument Rack headache...how would you do that ?
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 3:41 pm
by chapelier fou
Chains don't trigger if the initial note on is off the end of the chain
Exactly.
but fades are forced to be on the beginning or on the start of the chain, that's the problem. Otherwise i could make all the chains full length and draw a cascade of fades...but instrument rack doesn't allow me to do that.
Re: Instrument Rack headache...how would you do that ?
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 3:49 pm
by Tarekith
Ah, I didn't realize that about note ons, sorry!
Re: Instrument Rack headache...how would you do that ?
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 10:31 pm
by siliconarc
you need to make 2 racks - an instrument rack for the Simplers, followed by an effects rack:
rack up your Simpler devices so they all play at once.
add an effects rack after it, with the same number of chains as there are Simpler devices (6 Simpler chains, 6 effect rack chains).
now, on each chain in the effect rack, add a compressor with its sidechain set to receive input from the corresponding Simpler chain, and enable the 'monitor' button of the comp.
repeat for the rest of the chains, and set up your chain crossfades.
***here's one i made earlier***
Re: Instrument Rack headache...how would you do that ?
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 11:21 am
by chapelier fou
That's really clever ! Thank you very very much !
Re: Instrument Rack headache...how would you do that ?
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 11:25 am
by chapelier fou
Damn, this 'monitor' option in compressor allows a lot of stuff you couldn't do without. Never thought of that !
Re: Instrument Rack headache...how would you do that ?
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 11:26 am
by siliconarc
Re: Instrument Rack headache...how would you do that ?
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 1:23 pm
by regretfullySaid
Yeah someone (Boozy) came up with a pretty good solution for comping with that trick.
Clever indeed!
Re: Instrument Rack headache...how would you do that ?
Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 10:42 pm
by siliconarc
pretty sure the comping trick wasnt mine, shadx312 (unless i posted it while hammered).
not seen that one, sounds cool. got a link?
Re: Instrument Rack headache...how would you do that ?
Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 11:02 pm
by regretfullySaid
Oh I think it was here a couple years ago....I do believe he had some pics to go with it, too...and I'm fairly certain it was along-timer, like Angstrom or someone.
Similar idea though. Take the inputs of audio tracks to each compressor sidechain in and fade between the audio with the chain slider...
Re: Instrument Rack headache...how would you do that ?
Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2018 11:26 am
by maciejsawicki
I think I figured another workaround, without sidechain compressors. Just use the audio effect rack zones. I posted details in this feature request
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