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...remember that silly argument about Push being a better instrument than Maschine because it had more buttons. We were wrong, it's just a 'different' type of instrument.

..but this is a much better step in the right direction.

I just wonder how many body parts I'll need to sell in order to acquire one.



Push MKII?

I think you should consider buying some more hands, too.

Buttons look too small

For how long has Roger been developing that stuff, like 10 years. Another developer Madona labs made something very similar in short time and you cana actually buy it, The linn instrument is vaporware.

Alternative keyboard dosposition is nothing new, Buchla already proposed some like 30 years ago, the isomorphic keybord was first designed in the 80's.

For what is intended Push is well designed.

for me the appeal of Push is the integration with Live, and having knobs to tweak parameters as well. a straight-up flat grid button controller doesn't appeal to me at all, because i don't find rubber buttons that expressive.

if i had too much money i'd get an Eigenharp, or maybe one of those fancy new keyboards that is laid out like a piano keyboard but incorporates other sensors too (can't remember the name)...

fishmonkey wrote:for me the appeal of Push is the integration with Live, and having knobs to tweak parameters as well. a straight-up flat grid button controller doesn't appeal to me at all, because i don't find rubber buttons that expressive.

I agree and I use push as a DAW/Sequencer controller. If i want to play something i play the keyboard. I love keyboards as instruments.

This thread was more about the 3D Note Expression and not the size of the buttons or the texture of the pads. I'm surprised none of you picked up on that.

I have a feeling Peter Kirn has been told the intended RRP, but obviously has been sworn to secrecy. There's a small hint of "close to macbook air prices", it's hard to say how accurate that is.

I do wish Roger Linn would get a few cold-hearted staff working on this, it's been a long wait, and I just picture him in his house slowly making new Linsstrument prototypes and repeatedly saying "Nah, not quiiite right. I think I'll make another slightly different one". Enough of the labour of love already!

i never did, always knew it is a controller, a well done controller.

Roger Linn demonstrates the latest Linnstrument, as pictured above.

prepare yourself for hot keytar-style action

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74H91iPZp7U



"Ableton only works with lowest compatibility mode, because it can't respond to poly-pressure"

Interesting

Thanks for the video link. A man very much 'into' what he does; I could listen to him talk about it all day, his enthusiasm is infectious.

Interesting his comment about samplers at the end. I still think his LinnStrument has scope for manipulating layered samples in a very expressive way, in attack and timbre.

fishmonkey wrote:or maybe one of those fancy new keyboards that is laid out like a piano keyboard but incorporates other sensors too (can't remember the name)...

The Seaboard maybe? I'd get one of those if I had too much money as well.

An hour of Roger Linn talking in depth about the Linnstrument, for those who didn't catch it last week.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vezUSK4DHY