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To clearify.
When you unfold a drumrack in the mixer, you see all pads laid out nice. Good overview and access to levels, pan and so on. However, it would be very useful to be able to place individual midi clips on those channels as well. Organisation wise it would be great. Kick midi on one, HH on another etc.
This way you could have a 1 bar kick, and a 2 bar HH for ex.

I know this can be done by creating new empty midi tracks and routing midi out to the drum rack, but it gets to to messy with to many tracks in some cases.

It would also in this case be useful to have a master midi track for editing all clips together, like in the other requests for editing multiple midi clips. sort of a grouping of midi clips where you're able to edit as group, or folding it out to edit each individual midi element.

They would have to substantially reconfigure the whole design philosophy of a drum rack, though, to do that, wouldn't they? For example, the ability to assign the particular 'note in' and 'note out' of a drum rack would be gone...

I don't think this is such a far fetched idea considering how similar a drum track and a group midi track look. Each sub-track in a drum track only represents a single midi note whereas the midi group sub-track can have the full scale-- that's no different than a folded piano roll with a single note on it. It would be kind of cool to have looping points set per note too. In the drum track view you could have the loop shown for each note as you select it (similar to how in arrangement view it shows the loop within the clip when you expand it or lengthen it). The real trick would be integrating the multiple loop points into a single view.

bjoeri wrote: I know this can be done by creating new empty midi tracks and routing midi out to the drum rack, but it gets to to messy with to many tracks in some cases.

But you could clean it all up by creating track groups?