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Great story

http://www.wired.com/2012/06/tod-dockstader/

Dockstader said he viewed all of his electronic works over the years as if they were children. “I liked them, and I had the feeling, weirdly enough, that they liked me,” he said. “To me, they were alive. This wasn’t cold electricity. There was life in there — in this little box, or whatever it is. These glowing tubes at night.

Don't know the dude, but I sure hope his music is more original than this contrived cliché...

re:dream wrote:

Dockstader said he viewed all of his electronic works over the years as if they were children. “I liked them, and I had the feeling, weirdly enough, that they liked me,” he said. “To me, they were alive. This wasn’t cold electricity. There was life in there — in this little box, or whatever it is. These glowing tubes at night.

Does really nobody come up with anything new anymore?!

Pretentious waffle is still waffle.

Maybe he didn't think of it as something he was coming up with, just that it was something he genuinely felt.

Would it be unoriginal and cliche to say "I love my kids"?

Love is a feeling. He was waffling.

Or at best waffeeling.

meh

I thought it was kind of interest re:dream; reading halfway through it reminded me that I'd read about him before somewhere, but I'd like to see if they list Joe Meek and not sure if Andre Popp would qualify...
ah the article is 2 years old no wonder

TomViolenz wrote:Don't know the dude, but I sure hope his music is more original than this contrived cliché...

re:dream wrote:

Dockstader said he viewed all of his electronic works over the years as if they were children. “I liked them, and I had the feeling, weirdly enough, that they liked me,” he said. “To me, they were alive. This wasn’t cold electricity. There was life in there — in this little box, or whatever it is. These glowing tubes at night.

Does really nobody come up with anything new anymore?!

Seeing as he made this music in 1962, and your music sounds not unlike it, that is a strange comment...

re:dream wrote: Seeing as he made this music in 1962, and your music sounds not unlike it, that is a strange comment...

Not really. I specifically said, I don't know the dude and expressed hope for his music. So my judgement wasn't about his music at all.

But that phrase you posted made me literaly roll my eyes.

And lol at Shadx, at least he didn't use the word texture huh

..and people say that you're argumentative??

I think re:dream's point was to expose that it was ironic for you to criticise on originality when your music sounds derivative of your subject in question. Fair comment I think.

I only seem to love the first minute of my tracks before they start complaining I’m not keeping things exciting and they stop putting out. So I throw more money at it but it's never satisfied.

What I really liked was that notion of making music by physically splicing together bits of metal tape with a lit cigarette. It makes my own complaints about Arrangement View seem fairly trivial.

beats me wrote:I only seem to love the first minute of my tracks before they start complaining I’m not keeping things exciting and they stop putting out. So I throw more money at it but it's never satisfied.

Did you try Euros?

Isn't saying '_________ is such a contrived cliche' a contrived cliche?

panten wrote:..and people say that you're argumentative??

I think re:dream's point was to expose that it was ironic for you to criticise on originality when your music sounds derivative of your subject in question. Fair comment I think.

Funny..., but you should know that there is a difference between being argumentative and being a dick.

Since I was being argumentative, and re:dream neither said or implied the things you put in his mouth, that leaves only you to be the dick.

Attacking another forum poster on his music that he didn't solicit your opinion on (and which you probably didn't even listend to...) is always a very classy move you know.

Panten: File under jestermcgee, eyeknow

shadx312 wrote:Isn't saying '_________ is such a contrived cliche' a contrived cliche?

No, otherwise nothing could be stated to be a contrived cliché ever, leading to circular reasoning.
But asking that question certainly is.