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Remove the 12 return track limit!
Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2014 10:27 pm
by Adam Mantium
I find this severely limiting. I use return tracks for effects, busses, and matrix mixes and I run out fast.
Re: Remove the 12 return track limit!
Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2014 12:54 am
by jlgrimes
Adam Mantium wrote:I find this severely limiting. I use return tracks for effects, busses, and matrix mixes and I run out fast.
Reason only have eight.
I do hope we get unlimited someday.
Re: Remove the 12 return track limit!
Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 12:18 pm
by samsteeno
+1
I use returns for headphone mixing and FX sends and I run out quickly
Re: Remove the 12 return track limit!
Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 12:25 pm
by S4racen
12 gives me 8 send return busses for fx and four for routing to an external mixer, I've found the more you add the more you add the higher w CPU so if they increase he limit its got to be at the same time as overall CPU is reduced...
Cheers
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Re: Remove the 12 return track limit!
Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2015 2:29 am
by Adam Mantium
S4racen wrote:I've found the more you add the more you add the higher w CPU
I'd rather decide how much cpu to use myself.
Just tried a demo of bitwig. Unlimited returns. Hmmm...
Re: Remove the 12 return track limit!
Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2015 10:52 am
by 33tetragammon
Adam Mantium wrote:
Just tried a demo of bitwig. Unlimited returns. Hmmm...
That is something that Bitwig DOES have, but no way to send the audio to other (or the same) return channels for crazy feedback FX mayhem like Live (or Logic X) has.
Re: Remove the 12 return track limit!
Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 6:57 am
by Adam Mantium
True. Plus considering I bought Push and the Suite this year it's not the best time to switch. It frustrates me a bit because I'm trying to set up Live for smaller live sound applications, and it's almost there, but the return track limit is a deal breaker in most cases. I've been looking for a max device that will mimic the effect by sending to a track through an encoder, but I don't think anyone has made anything like that. Not sure if it's possible or not.
Re: Remove the 12 return track limit!
Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 6:59 am
by Adam Mantium
33tetragammon wrote:That is something that Bitwig DOES have, but no way to send the audio to other (or the same) return channels for crazy feedback FX mayhem like Live (or Logic X) has.
Though you theoretically could do this in bitwig by routing your fx channel to an audio track.
Re: Remove the 12 return track limit!
Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2015 7:06 am
by V0rtex
+1
Re: Remove the 12 return track limit!
Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2020 8:40 pm
by Manuel (GTHC-Entertainment)
Here is a workaround I use for quite a while now.
FREE Download @ Gumroad:
https://gum.co/INP-Multi-Track-Inputs
Greats and let me know what you think about it!
Re: Remove the 12 return track limit!
Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2020 12:55 am
by Valiumdupeuple
For M4L users, you can use
Outist/Insist to turn any audio track into a return track (plus you have the extra option to have individual pre-post sends).
Re: Remove the 12 return track limit!
Posted: Sun May 03, 2020 9:57 am
by heWhoDrinks
Definately something for next 10.x update.
No Limit on Returns!
Re: Remove the 12 return track limit!
Posted: Sat May 09, 2020 11:59 am
by torbenscharling
Crazy if this hasn’t been done yet what are Ableton devs doing?!

This was suggested in 2014 ?!?!?!?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!