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Why are Max MIDI capabilities useless in M4L ?
Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2014 12:42 pm
by RoCah
The fact that MIDI in M4L does not allow to select multiple MIDI devices is totally absurd.
It is obvious that M4L should allow to select any MIDI in/out port and device like in Max (using midiinfo, MIDI device routing, all MIDI messages, sysex, multichannel,etc).
Live should be one of the devices.
This would make life (and Live) much simpler for users.
It seems that everyone there believe that M4L users are either beginners or professional developers. In fact most are not.
The idea that M4L is used for making MIDI or audio effects is odd and reductive.
Best regards
Roland
Re: Why are Max MIDI capabilities useless in M4L ?
Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2014 6:05 pm
by stringtapper
RoCah wrote:The fact that MIDI in M4L does not allow to select multiple MIDI devices is totally absurd.
It is obvious that M4L should allow to select any MIDI in/out port and device like in Max (using midiinfo, MIDI device routing, all MIDI messages, sysex, multichannel,etc).
Live should be one of the devices.
This would make life (and Live) much simpler for users.
It seems that everyone there believe that M4L users are either beginners or professional developers. In fact most are not.
The idea that M4L is used for making MIDI or audio effects is odd and reductive.
Best regards
Roland
It's a limitation of Live itself, not M4L. Just like there's no multi-channel MIDI in Live.
It's the way Live tracks work. They're either MIDI or Audio, with either Instrument, Audio, or MIDI devices. Thus M4L also conforms to that paradigm.
If you want it changed then you're asking for a change in the way Live itself works, which is fine. Just be aware of what you are actually asking.
Re: Why are Max MIDI capabilities useless in M4L ?
Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 8:22 am
by Mr-Bit
I used Plogue Bidule before Max, as a vst inside Live it could send to any port on any channel, was the main reason I used it.
Re: Why are Max MIDI capabilities useless in M4L ?
Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 2:15 pm
by oddstep
how did it do it? did it have an internal IAC/midiloop bus? in m4l you can use send and receive pairs to funnel midi data from device to device. i do it a lot. there's a max 7 device that makes it easier. i think the architecture is there in max 6 so you could download the 30 day demo. save the device using max 6 and then it'll work when the demo expires.