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Would be fantastic to have adjustable feedback on each chain in an audio effects rack.
(Or even better, a pair of audio send/return plugins, so that you could split the audio path and send from anywhere to mix back in anywhere. Might be tricky to implement though perhaps...)

ooh, that would be great...

+1

think about Compressor's side chain input...
now think about its listen mode...

Yes, with a bit of tweaking, you can set up very effective feedback with the sidechain / listen mode. But it needs to be used with care if you don't want hearing damage or, worse, mess up your monitors. Put a limiter in there too.

Valiumdupeuple wrote:think about Compressor's side chain input...
now think about its listen mode...

Yes, but it's a bit tedious. If you want to be able to feed back a chain on itself, you need to set up an effects rack at the beginning of the chain with one chain just passing through (to get the input signal into the chain) and one chain with compressor on sidechain listen. Then, at the end of the FX chain, you need to insert another FX rack wit a single empty chain for the compressor to listen to (since you can't select "post FX" on the same chain the compressor is located on, as far as I can tell). So, just to feedback into a single chain you need two additional racks...

you should be aware that any feedback chains constructed will take that signal path out of the PDC calculations. This also happens with the feedback paths generated when sending an effects send/return back on itself too, because you can't calculate the latency. So don't plan on putting your feedback effects rack on your drum channel

Angstrom wrote:you should be aware that any feedback chains constructed will take that signal path out of the PDC calculations. This also happens with the feedback paths generated when sending an effects send/return back on itself too, because you can't calculate the latency. So don't plan on putting your feedback effects rack on your drum channel

Yeah, well, predicting the future is pretty hard after all. ;o)

(In the Live 8 manual they said the same thing about the compressor, regarding lookahead combined with feedback mode, but promised they were working hard on a solution to predict the future. Guess they just solved it by removing the feedback mode from the compressor instead. DISAPPOINTED! )

re:dream wrote:if you don't want hearing damage or, worse, mess up your monitors.

Don't know what monitors you have, but...