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studio set up ideas

Posted: Thu May 07, 2015 5:43 pm
by rburtons
Hello people, a friend who's starting asked for advice for his new home studio set up for <1000€, he's coming from more guitar-based sort of music and he says he wanna explore more electronic sounds, he already got Ableton so, what do you guys would advice apart from the obvious sound card and monitors?

Re: studio set up ideas

Posted: Thu May 07, 2015 6:11 pm
by Tarekith
MIDI Controller.

Re: studio set up ideas

Posted: Thu May 07, 2015 7:22 pm
by rburtons
Yeah, I thought of the Push, but I wonder til which point a cheap midi keyboard and touchable/lemur might be more interesting.

Re: studio set up ideas

Posted: Thu May 07, 2015 8:07 pm
by sana48
I suggest a cheap midi keyboard.... maybe 61 keys or something of the like..

Then a really good plugin like Omnisphere...

Sorry, I AM bias

Re: studio set up ideas

Posted: Thu May 07, 2015 8:26 pm
by antarktika
sana48 wrote:I suggest a cheap midi keyboard.... maybe 61 keys or something of the like..

Then a really good plugin like Omnisphere...

Sorry, I AM bias
Half their budget for *ONE* VST?

Something like Komplete would make far more sense for somebody starting out, since it covers a lot of different synths, drums, fx, etc...

Re: studio set up ideas

Posted: Thu May 07, 2015 11:18 pm
by yur2die4
I'd be curious about what his aim for direction with electronic sounds is.

Some people want the wacky experimental noises. Some want gritty grimey in your face. Some want massive EDM and club sounds.

It is hard to recommend any particular software if one isn't sure what sounds he is aiming for.

As for hardware, it comes down to controllers that are midi specific vs ones with built in sound, and on top of that, the 'style' of playing they either Intend to do or want to learn how to do.

Re: studio set up ideas

Posted: Fri May 08, 2015 12:08 am
by antarktika
yur2die4 wrote:Some people want the wacky experimental noises.
Reaktor
yur2die4 wrote:Some want gritty grimey in your face.
FM8, Massive
yur2die4 wrote:Some want massive EDM and club sounds.
Massive, FM8, Kontakt, etc
yur2die4 wrote:It is hard to recommend any particular software if one isn't sure what sounds he is aiming for.
Komplete :P

Re: studio set up ideas

Posted: Fri May 08, 2015 7:44 am
by rburtons
Yeah, Komplete seems a safe bet, as much as Omnisphere seem really interesting. Controller-wise, machine then? Or is there any proper NI/Lemur ipad controller you guys know about? Maschine seems to me more orientated to beat-based music, rather than melodic.

Re: studio set up ideas

Posted: Fri May 08, 2015 8:26 am
by TomViolenz
rburtons wrote:Yeah, Komplete seems a safe bet, as much as Omnisphere seem really interesting. Controller-wise, machine then? Or is there any proper NI/Lemur ipad controller you guys know about? Maschine seems to me more orientated to beat-based music, rather than melodic.
check out the new NI keyboards, they are a good match for Komplete since the 8 encoders are always mapped to the 8 performance macros in Komplete instruments.

Also for controlling Live there is a very good control app for the iPad called TouchAble.

Also interesting for Live could be the new Launchpad Pro, if a full Push is not in the cards. It has the same scale feature (should be good for guitarists) and the pads are good for aftertouch (pressure sensitive). And clip triggering in Session view is obviously front and center for it. It also covers a lot of other ground for controlling Live, especially if you buy the script from NativeKontrol for it, since that would add good step sequencers and other nifty things 8)

Re: studio set up ideas

Posted: Sat May 09, 2015 8:16 am
by rburtons
I've seen the touchable app, it looks great, that's why I was thinking, maybe a midi keaybord + touchable rather than the push if it's to be used plugins, I'm not sure how well push can control plugins.