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Problems with automation between Ableton and Sylenth

Posted: Fri May 08, 2015 12:16 am
by mattattack
Having a problem where anything I automate (Using the Configure on the plugin to add parameters) is popping up the Re-Enable Automation button and bypassing my automation as soon as playback in Ableton hits the tracks clip. Anyone have any ideas what the problem could be? :(

Re: Problems with automation between Ableton and Sylenth

Posted: Fri May 08, 2015 1:05 am
by Steve Glen
Could try mapping the parameter to a macro, then automating the macro. That might trick ableton and sylenth into working.

If you have a mac, you could try au or vst, whichwver one you are not using

Re: Problems with automation between Ableton and Sylenth

Posted: Fri May 08, 2015 4:28 am
by pinkpaint
try clicking the little plus to the right of play?

Re: Problems with automation between Ableton and Sylenth

Posted: Sat May 09, 2015 8:43 pm
by TheCoil
Sylenth automation can be weird in Live, sometimes when you automate the pitch, for instance a pitch bend, it won't return to the original pitch, even if your automation is correct, it will stay in the bent down or up position.

Re: Problems with automation between Ableton and Sylenth

Posted: Sun May 10, 2015 1:10 am
by Steve Glen
Is the parameter modulated by an envelope or an lfo within sylenth? this might cause abketon to think the hser adjjsted the parameter and will unhinge the parameter from automation control. A possible solution might bd instead automate a modulator that modulates something else. Obviously not ideal, this is a bug, but those are some pitential workarounds.

Curious, 32 or 64 ableton?

Re: Problems with automation between Ableton and Sylenth

Posted: Tue May 12, 2015 2:52 am
by mattattack
Arrangement Overdub (the little +) doesn't change anything, it's still popping the Re-Enable, and the problem isn't that the automations aren't going back from where-ever I'm sending them, it's that Ableton keeps refusing to use them unless I click the newly popped Re-Enable button at the start of playback.

The automation is mapped to a Mod Envelope wheel (Cutoff AB in most cases), and it's 32 bit Sylenth, in 32 bit Ableton.

Re: Problems with automation between Ableton and Sylenth

Posted: Sun May 17, 2015 4:51 am
by mattattack
Bump.

Re: Problems with automation between Ableton and Sylenth

Posted: Sun May 17, 2015 3:02 pm
by mattattack
Problem solved. I went ahead and rolled with the idea of mapping Sylenths parameters to some Instrument Rack macros and automate the Macros. It's not the most efficient setup for workflow, but it's a solid fix and it's useful for future MIDI control setup!

Re: Problems with automation between Ableton and Sylenth

Posted: Sun May 20, 2018 3:31 am
by beame
I've spent the last 2 days trying to find an answer to this issue and I have found a solution of what seems to be the root of the problem.

The symptoms have always leaned towards the clip for some reason overriding the automation set in the arrangement.

What I found, was that the clips that were causing this had a Pgm Change specified. In my case it was PGM 3. Once I delete this and put it back to NIL it stopped overriding my arrangements automations.

You can download a screenshot here of what I am talking about

https://www.dropbox.com/s/g433p8iber5t9 ... n.png?dl=0

I hope this helps :D

Re: Problems with automation between Ableton and Sylenth

Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2020 7:00 pm
by Just/S
I'm experiencing the same issue now,if any one has a solution,please let me know. Thank you

Re: Problems with automation between Ableton and Sylenth

Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2023 5:56 pm
by bxn
@beame you're a rock star 8)