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Hi,
I've been having this frustating issue for quite a while now. When opening projects with multiple instances of AU Sylenth, some of them (not all of them, that's the fun part!) completely lose the preset that was saved with the project the last time I closed it.

The midi files onto the track are not imported, the melodies are notes I came up with.

Running OSX Mavericks (had the issue with previous releases of OSX)
Ableton Live 32

any idea anyone?

Does this happen if you save the preset info inside the MIDI clip? Using the Bank/Sub/Pgm parameters in the Notes box?

Hi,
I don't save any parameter in midi clips. It just re-initialises the device to its default arp preset

So then try this out and see if it helps. In the clip's Note box, you'll find a stack of three fields: Bank, Sub, and Pgm. These fields send a message to your synth (virtual or hardware) telling it which preset to play when the clip is launched. The tricky part is that every synth understands these codes differently and you'll have to mess around to figure out which numbers mean what.

For example, in Dune 2, Bank translates to preset subfolder, and Pgm is the actual preset number in that folder, as displayed in Dune 2 main screen. Sub is not used.

On the Novation Bass Station Rack (the hardware version), only Pgm is used, but you have to increase the number by one, so "45" gets you preset 44.

For Enzyme, it doesn't work at all--for whatever reason, Enzyme doesn't respond to those codes. But that's a rare case. /shrug

Once you figure out these numbers, the clip will automatically set the synth to the correct preset. Give it a try and see if that fixes the issue.

ok I'll give it a try thanks!

I can confirm this works.

A sythenth preset can be addressed by Bank + Pgm. If you wanted to refer to preset 219, which is BS TranceRoller as of this writing, you'd set Bank to 2 and Pgm to 91, as 128 + 91 = 219.

its a shame that in clips the automation envelopes from the sylenth don't work after program changes.
Am i doing something wrong?

JAMM wrote:its a shame that in clips the automation envelopes from the sylenth don't work after program changes.
Am i doing something wrong?

OS?
Sylenth Version? (Is it up to date and the latest)??
Live Version?

No issues here with the latest sylenth

latest 9 version off live.....problem occurs with all earlier versions off sylenth.
If i don,t do a program changers to another sylenth preset every (sylenth) automation envelopes works fine in every clip.

JAMM wrote:latest 9 version off live.....problem occurs with all earlier versions off sylenth.
If i don,t do a program changers to another sylenth preset every (sylenth) automation envelopes works fine in every clip.

You didn't actually answer any of these:

OS?
Sylenth Version? (Is it up to date and the latest)??
Live Version?

Version numbers, not "the latest" as that wont help someone with the same issue in another 2 years.

I sell NKS preset libraries for the Native Instruments Komplete/Maschine hardware and I get a load of users who have issues with automation or presets loading. Almost 100% of the time, the plugin is an outdated version. Posting your version numbers just ensures we are using the same version and can either confirm or not the same issue