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Hello,

I have an Arturia MiniLab that became a bit obsolete when I bought an APC40 MkII.
I decided that I wanted to use my MiniLab as a general controller for my Synth-VST. When you create a group with your synth/effect, you can automap up to 8 knobs, I wanted to do that with the 16 knobs + 8 CC buttons of my MiniLab.

But Ableton doesn't propose this basic feature, and after loads of research it seems that I have to use M4L to find a solution.

So I would like a device that can automatically assign my desire CC to some knobs that I can then map to my devices knobs , I will use different instrument so I canno't use MidiLearn as my MiniLab would have to control on each instruments its own things, like the automapping function of ableton.

At the moment I have found two things that could work: MultiMapper32Midi, but I wasn't able to make it automatically reads all my MiniLab CC values, only the first eight(so nothing special, just Ableton working correctly). I'm not even sure it was designed for that but it doesn't hurt to ask.

I also found this other M4L device Manual CC Mapper, this one is able to read all my MiniLab CC values without using MidiLearn, you still have to assign the parameter but it's okay for me. The problem is that I would like to have different synth per track, so I use an Instrument Rack, but the device will still read my Minilab CC values even though I'm not playing this instrument. Here's a picture, it may be easier to understand. So if you know a way to make non-selected instruments in the instrument rack receives nothing, it would also solve my problem, even though I would prefer the first option.

Thank You very much if you are able to help me or give me tips, this problem is really hurting my desire to create music.

You have to write a custom control surface script in Python....

Cheers
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Hey,

thanks for the answer, I don't have a lot of experience in programming, just some little knowledge of C. Can I just found some pre-made script and change some code to make it work with my ArturiaMiniLab or will I have to start from scratch and so learn Python, how Ableton works with Python and how the MiniLab works with Python ?

So if you have any links that may help me, it would be greatly appreciated.

We've got scripts for the LaunchControl XL and BCR2000 that do this, i'd have to speak with Lee to see if the Arturia is on his list to develop for, it's unlikely i'm afraid though....

Cheers
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Yea, I saw your scripts and was a bit relieved when I saw it was possible to have more automapping knobs.
Would it be possible to just take the LaunchControl Script and do some workaround to make it work with the MiniLab ? I see that there is 24 automapped knobs in the script, is the script "easy" as putting the correct CC number to the "scripted automapped knobs", and so I could just take the CC number of my MiniLab and change them in the script or is it more complicated ?

the base LC XL script does some handshaking with the unit to identify it and enable functionality and the extended script also relies on this - that said, it should be possible to disable this and then remap the controls...

You can probably do this by using two or three midi remote scripts that are cover all your knobs, across different banks. I did this fairly easily for my nord lead, I can have 24 knobs blue hand enabled. You have to send a couple of bank change messages to live somehow, so you have one script on bank one, one on two and one on three.

It does start eating into your script slots though