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How to save chopped audioclip as playable sounds?

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2015 10:20 am
by DanielGD5
Hi!

I'm trying to experiment and getting some new sounds to use when I play on my midi-keyboard. I've looked around but I can't find the answer of what I'm looking for on youtube or google because I'm not sure I should call it, so I'll try to describe it here.

Let's say you found a really cool synth sound. Let's take something easy like the opening synth/bass sound in Deadmau5's song "Some Chords". You get the audiofile for the song and put into Ableton Live 9.

Here you start chop out eveything but the first measure. How do you save/convert this chopped audioclip (synth sound on the first measure) to midi so you can use this synth sound on your whole keyboard. Is it possible?


I've tried the (magical) tool to convert the audio to midi, but it only gives me the notes to play, timing and beat, but it's being played on the standard piano sound, not the Deadmau5 sound I want.

It's not a big problem, but to get an answer to this would make things much easier.

Any help would be fantastic :D

Re: How to save chopped audioclip as playable sounds?

Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2015 8:05 pm
by BrokenOceanProd
So let me make sure I understand..
A. You have a synth sound loop or sample that you
B. want to take the Noise or sound from the first part of the loop and insert that into a device or something and play it in different notes using your keyboard as you would with any sound patch in a studio instrument or synth?
Basically you want to use that as a sound patch?

Re: How to save chopped audioclip as playable sounds?

Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2015 8:31 pm
by dhpetrescu
do you mean slice to midi not converts to midi? You could try this: Select the sample and assign playback to two keys on your keyboard. It will then slice the sample automatically in increments equal to the number of keys between the two circles. You can also do this manually.
To be able to convert to midi and keep the sound, you would need the patch of the original sound, which I imagine is probably impossible unless it is a preset or unless
you program it yourself.

Re: How to save chopped audioclip as playable sounds?

Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2015 2:31 pm
by BrokenOceanProd
Or you could just highlight the section of the loop you want in arrangement view and perhaps drag it into simpler, edit and tweak it a bit and then play it like a sound patch with your midi keyboard,
Or if you're really good you can try to re create the sound using massive, harmor or even serum.
I hope that all made sense

Re: How to save chopped audioclip as playable sounds?

Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2015 4:03 pm
by DanielGD5
I think you described my problem in a better way than I did, BrokenOceanProd.

Yes, I want a slice of an sample (just the sound of the first chord of a synth) to be played (modulated) at the different keys on an keyboard, just like a sound patch.

Is it possible to do this in Ableton?

Thanks for answering, both of you!

Re: How to save chopped audioclip as playable sounds?

Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2015 5:07 pm
by mrgrim3
you are trying to make a multi sample instrument from the sound?

if you do with just one sampled sound as a synth it will sound funny when you go away a few notes away you will need one of each sound in the different octaves to make a nice sounding synth (c0-c5) that kind of thing

if you want sampler to play the different samples you chopped up on different keys i think you need to use the zone tab in sampler and manually set the zones to each key

Re: How to save chopped audioclip as playable sounds?

Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2015 5:19 pm
by DanielGD5
I'll try to find a way by what you wrote.

But then I wounder. What's the point of buing these Top 100 DJ sound packs when it's only samples from already excisting songs.. What should I do with them If there's nothing in them that I can use if I'm not going to do a remix.

Re: How to save chopped audioclip as playable sounds?

Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2015 5:26 pm
by mrgrim3
i personally dont think buying sample packs are worth it

they are fun to use and get making stuff fast but sometimes they arent usable if you do music and get payed (i dont lol)

you can also put those samples into sampler or granulator and make a synth sound from them too you know

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OogYwVTGuhs this is a video of tom cosm making a bass from a cough sample in sampler its like 28 minutes long

Re: How to save chopped audioclip as playable sounds?

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2015 1:55 pm
by BrokenOceanProd
OP I will make a video tutorial on my YouTube channel explaining and showing how to do this. I recently started making Ableton live tutorials and I think this would be a great topic to cover. But aside from that it's weird Cuz I was actually doing this the other day and made a pretty dirty bass sound patch using a sound sample from a sound pack and some effects.

But if you are still curious, give me a little bit and I will send you the link to my video. If you wanna check out my channel I'll give u the link, I have a few other videos up currently on Ableton and Massive... Just keep in mind im new to the whole video tutorial thing and eventho ive been producing for a few years now, this is the first time I've went ahead and tried to explain what I do. So don't hate! :P Constructive critisism only lol

https://m.youtube.com/channel/UCSBcE_gA5aKjqj09lkI849w

Re: How to save chopped audioclip as playable sounds?

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2015 2:10 pm
by beats me
mrgrim3 wrote:i personally dont think buying sample packs are worth it

I agree with whole libraries but there is this

https://splice.com/features/sounds

It’s like crate diving for individual royalty free samples and $8 a month for 100 samples is reasonable. You can even create your own custom playlists to review for download later. Whole libraries are usually packed with filler you will never use.

BTW Deadmau5 has a sample pack on there with 3,294 available samples.

Re: How to save chopped audioclip as playable sounds?

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2015 2:41 pm
by DanielGD5
Thanks for answers, guys! I'll check them out.

And BrokenOceanProd, please send me the link of the video, that would be amazing.

Mrgrim3, any tips on these samplers/granulators?

Re: How to save chopped audioclip as playable sounds?

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2015 5:33 pm
by BrokenOceanProd
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8K2NYWzujC4

Here is the link. Video just got done uploading. I hope this helps you out. Please let me know the outcome and if I was able to solve your problem. And If the video was garbage and if I left anyrhing out and you still need help also let me know lol Thanks!