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The future of ableton live (10 years)
Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2015 10:23 pm
by jake808
10 years from now Ableton is going to be installed on our Push (or whatever) no pc required! Unless you want to link it to pc which you probably will for updating reasons ect but yeah i think its possible to click on an Ableton Push size device nowadays and load up a full working daw. Thats where i think texh is going anyway
Re: The future of ableton live (10 years)
Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2015 10:32 am
by Tagor
i wonder it does not work this way already today
Re: The future of ableton live (10 years)
Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2015 3:31 pm
by doghouse
Why? Because then Push would cost $2000.
Re: The future of ableton live (10 years)
Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2015 11:47 pm
by Tagor
inclusive audiointerface ?
good deal!
Re: The future of ableton live (10 years)
Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2015 2:35 am
by -art-
I don't know the ins and outs of Push's hardware, but I imagine this would take a lot of work.
Since Live is written for Windows and OSX, a version on Push would have to be written for whatever processor Push uses. This to me sounds like a complete rewrite of an audio engine, and of course all the devices and instruments in Live.
I agree though, it would be rad to just plug a pair of headphones into Push and jam away.
But Push would never run a full desktop OS, so I wonder how this would work. Obviously if u then wanted to communicate the data you'd recorded on Push with a desktop OS, there would need to be a relationship between the two... Perhaps its easy to just port Live to a mobile processor, I don't know.
It seems to me like it would come in successive versions... You could imagine a range of possible scenarios though. Headphones on Push, audio streaming from a Laptop to Push, and back the other way for recording (audio inputs on Push)... I think Ableton would probably agree though that unless they could put in some killer audio interface components a lot of users probably wouldn't want that feature, because whatever they have in the studio already would probably beat whatever they put inside Push. Otherwise then Push becomes an amateur device. So then, the only real aim I think for Push is simply it being one of the best audio interfaces on the market, otherwise I don't see a reason for that feature. I remember having Guitar Rig controller that had an audio interface, but i never used it, because the one I already had was better.
But I would be happy with that, if it got to that point where on the back of Push was say 4 ins or 4 outs..., it'd just have to be of killer quality. And at that point you probably fragment the device into one thats an audio interface, and one that isn't.
It's an interesting future that's exciting to watch. But this was something I noted with Push 2, two important features I think it needs - opening sets, and saving sets... It would be awesome too, if turning Push on simply launched Live, but I don't know if thats possible or not.
As it stands they are two key fundamental things you need to work with Live, and right out of the box, not being able to open a set from Push means the first thing you do is use the mouse. It's also the last thing you do when you've finished playing.
If Abes could add those two features, then it goes a long way toward being a device where you don't have to touch the mouse at all during a session. Currently, its flanked either side of a jam by mouse, if they could eliminate those two bookends it would be awesome.
Then I could even imagine a scenario where I had say, a screenless Mac mini, that when I turned it on auto-booted Live, and from there I simply use Push to browse and load a set, and then start jamming.