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Mouse Recommendations for Use with Live 9?

Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2015 6:10 am
by cohamill
I have a mouse that worked well for my back when I used FL Studio, but using Ableton now, it leaves me wanting. This mouse has a scroll wheel, but since it only goes up and down, I have to actually click and drag to move around in the devices window and MIDI editor. Not a huge deal, but kind of a pain.

So, are there any mice (mouses?) out there that can allow me to scroll both vertically (for Session/Arrangement) *and* horizontally (for devices window/MIDI editor/Session/Arrangement)? Say, something with a 360° scroll wheel? Anybody with experience/recommendations?

Edit: I use a PC. Wireless would be nice, + optical would be extra nice :)

Re: Mouse Recommendations for Use with Live 9?

Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2015 6:23 am
by jestermgee
Holding CTRL (or shift cant remember) allows changing of scrolling?

I use a Kensington ball mouse to stop cramps, works like a champ, and it has 4 programmable buttons (well 2 if you count out the left/right clicks) so the other 2 act as zoom in/out within arrangement and scroll wheel is up/down with the modifier key left/right scroll. Also possible to program 2 button press to do something so could be programmed to do ALL of these including the modifier key from the mouse.

For gaming I have a Logitech G700s wireless mouse which has an insane amount of programming. It also has side scroll feature on the mouse wheel which could be easily set to scroll thru Live and with the programming software it's "per application" programming. Also has USB connection cable to charge + use at the same time (battery life is pretty poor). Tend to use it only for gaming tho.

Re: Mouse Recommendations for Use with Live 9?

Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2015 6:40 am
by cohamill
jestermgee wrote:Holding CTRL (or shift cant remember) allows changing of scrolling?
Oh snap, you've just answered my prayers! I had no idea about this function, but you're right, holding CTRL does indeed do just what I want! I guess I don't need a new mouse after all :D

That said, you've intrigued me with these programmable buttons. What does this mean exactly? Auxiliary buttons on your mouse that you can assign any function to? Could you assign, say, CTRL+Z to a button? Or Play/Stop, just like you can to QWERTY keys via key mapping? That ability might be a reason in its own right to upgrade my mouse.

Re: Mouse Recommendations for Use with Live 9?

Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2015 7:19 am
by jestermgee
Pretty much anything you want really. Undy, redo, play, save as, open etc. can be handy.

Re: Mouse Recommendations for Use with Live 9?

Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2015 1:02 pm
by Tagor

Re: Mouse Recommendations for Use with Live 9?

Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2015 5:56 pm
by ejlif
I like the combo of magic mouse and the trackpad. The magic mouse you can do so much more than a normal mouse scroll vertical/sideways no problem.

Re: Mouse Recommendations for Use with Live 9?

Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2015 1:33 am
by cohamill
ejlif wrote:The magic mouse you can do so much more than a normal mouse scroll vertical/sideways no problem.
Thanks for the suggestions all.

The gaming mouses are just way too intense for me - I don't need to spend $150 on a mouse, especially not one that is bulky and will require me to retrain my mouse hand just to use it.

The trackpad would be nice, but overkill in my situation - again, not looking to spend $150 dollars (the magic mouse and the trackpad each cost like $60-70).

However, I am intrigued by the magic mouse. I don't know too much about it, but I assumed it could also scroll sideways, so that's the one that I originally had in mind. What else can it do other than multi-directional scrolling? (Edit: I'm not a Mac/Safari user, and this mouse will really only be used with Ableton. Does that negate some of these extra features?)

Re: Mouse Recommendations for Use with Live 9?

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2016 3:03 pm
by cohamill
cohamill wrote:
jestermgee wrote:Holding CTRL (or shift cant remember) allows changing of scrolling?
Oh snap, you've just answered my prayers! I had no idea about this function, but you're right, holding CTRL does indeed do just what I want! I guess I don't need a new mouse after all :D
Revisiting this issue. The CTRL+Scrollwheel does scroll sideways, like I wanted. But it's kinda slow, and takes forever to scroll from end to end of, say, a long FX chain. Is there any way to increase the scrolling speed for this function?

Re: Mouse Recommendations for Use with Live 9?

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2016 3:43 pm
by xbitz
if u are on win platform Autohotkey (script based key macro app) can emulate mouse wheel

Code: Select all

ESC::SendEvent !{F4}


~LButton & WheelDown::MouseMove 0,2,0,R
~LButton & WheelUp::MouseMove 0,-2,0,R

^e::^!p
^w::^l
u can also reroute ESC to Alt+F4, and can do some keyboard remapping like ctl+e to ctrl+alt+p etc. so

~LButton & WheelDown::MouseMove means pressed left mouse button + scroll make gonna do same as mouse move down and
~LButton & WheelUp::MouseMove gonna do same as mouse move up with pressed left mouse button

https://autohotkey.com/