Native Instruments just ripped off Push big-time, ha!
Native Instruments just ripped off Push big-time, ha!
see for yourself...
"MASCHINE JAM is the modern digital instrument – your shortest avenue from inspiration to reality."
Hmm, sounds familiar...<cough>PUSH<cough>
https://www.native-instruments.com/en/p ... chine-jam/
"MASCHINE JAM is the modern digital instrument – your shortest avenue from inspiration to reality."
Hmm, sounds familiar...<cough>PUSH<cough>
https://www.native-instruments.com/en/p ... chine-jam/
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Re: Native Instruments just ripped off Push big-time, ha!
Pretty cool, no velocity sensitivity on the pads plus they are pretty small looking....
Re: Native Instruments just ripped off Push big-time, ha!
So they ripped off APC40, not Push.InLight-Tone wrote:Pretty cool, no velocity sensitivity on the pads plus they are pretty small looking....
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Re: Native Instruments just ripped off Push big-time, ha!
could be interesting anyway
via cdmAbleton integration
For Ableton Live users, you can actually work with nearly all of the Jam workflows with Ableton as the host and even ignore Maschine software, if you so choose. Maybe you do that all the time, maybe just for a particular project – or maybe you switch as you work, which is also possible. In that case, here’s how things translate:
The step sequencer controls drum racks
Touch strips control mixing: level, panning, send effects all with visual feedback (meaning this becomes a competitor to things like Novation’s LaunchControl, potentially)
Keyboard mode works with instruments and the like as usual
The grid launches, creates, mutes, and delete clips (with color feedback)
Re: Native Instruments just ripped off Push big-time, ha!
Plus this seems to rely a lot on touch strips. Nobody seems to have gotten this right yet, including Push. It's just too easy to get weird unmusical jumps in continuity. If you had a modwheel or fader that acted like that, you take the hardware back, because you'd think it was broken. I avoid using Push's touch strip. And that's why I've avoided the Komplete Kontrol keyboard.
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Re: Native Instruments just ripped off Push big-time, ha!
Push 1's strip was no problem for me - it just had pretty much zero functionality (mapping, fader control etc.)koranek wrote:Plus this seems to rely a lot on touch strips. Nobody seems to have gotten this right yet, including Push. It's just too easy to get weird unmusical jumps in continuity.
Push 2's strip is pretty much useless, jumps and skips all day long like you say - and still has pretty much zero functionality.
i really can't see NI messing this up too. looks like an interesting unit. we'll see.
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Re: Native Instruments just ripped off Push big-time, ha!
Maschine software caves my dome in....
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Re: Native Instruments just ripped off Push big-time, ha!
Modulation baby. I've had no skips myself using that. Also in PXT Live it controls the last selected parameter.garyboozy wrote: Push 1's strip was no problem for me - it just had pretty much zero functionality (mapping, fader control etc.)
I do agree it could have been made a lot more nifty though.
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Re: Native Instruments just ripped off Push big-time, ha!
I don't know, but this is how Rounik Sethi at ask.audio feel about this:mholloway wrote:
Hmm, sounds familiar...<cough>PUSH<cough>
-> First Look Video: NI Maschine JAM"…there will be the inevitable comparisons for Maschine JAM to the Ableton Push and the Akai Pro APC40. For me, Maschine JAM is completely different from Push and I've never tried the APC40 for more than a few minutes so I can't comment."
In addition, personally I'm not that fond of the Maschine sequencer functionality, but I guess if you like that this can be an interesting product.
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Re: Native Instruments just ripped off Push big-time, ha!
Maschine JAm seems exactly the middle point between Push and an APC
Re: Native Instruments just ripped off Push big-time, ha!
I've ordered two...
Cheers
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Cheers
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Re: Native Instruments just ripped off Push big-time, ha!
Wanna send me 800 bucks? I'll happily flush it down my toilet for you.S4racen wrote:I've ordered two...
Cheers
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Re: Native Instruments just ripped off Push big-time, ha!
is there any functional novelty in this?
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Re: Native Instruments just ripped off Push big-time, ha!
More of a performance controller like the APC but it does integrate with other Maschine's, which is slick.
http://www.synthtopia.com/content/2016/ ... ce-system/
Even so, I'll stick with my Push 2.
http://www.synthtopia.com/content/2016/ ... ce-system/
Even so, I'll stick with my Push 2.
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Re: Native Instruments just ripped off Push big-time, ha!
Come on Abes, do a half push, mixer strip thingy like this to run side by side with Push 2 with even MORE integration...
BUT, please address the arrangement view...(with either/or device)...
BUT, please address the arrangement view...(with either/or device)...