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Native Instruments just ripped off Push big-time, ha!
Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2016 3:37 pm
by mholloway
see for yourself...
"MASCHINE JAM is the modern digital instrument – your shortest avenue from inspiration to reality."
Hmm, sounds familiar...<cough>PUSH<cough>
https://www.native-instruments.com/en/p ... chine-jam/
Re: Native Instruments just ripped off Push big-time, ha!
Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2016 3:59 pm
by InLight-Tone
Pretty cool, no velocity sensitivity on the pads plus they are pretty small looking....
Re: Native Instruments just ripped off Push big-time, ha!
Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2016 4:39 pm
by ark
InLight-Tone wrote:Pretty cool, no velocity sensitivity on the pads plus they are pretty small looking....
So they ripped off APC40, not Push.
Re: Native Instruments just ripped off Push big-time, ha!
Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2016 4:54 pm
by mothergarage
could be interesting anyway
Ableton integration
For Ableton Live users, you can actually work with nearly all of the Jam workflows with Ableton as the host and even ignore Maschine software, if you so choose. Maybe you do that all the time, maybe just for a particular project – or maybe you switch as you work, which is also possible. In that case, here’s how things translate:
The step sequencer controls drum racks
Touch strips control mixing: level, panning, send effects all with visual feedback (meaning this becomes a competitor to things like Novation’s LaunchControl, potentially)
Keyboard mode works with instruments and the like as usual
The grid launches, creates, mutes, and delete clips (with color feedback)
via
cdm
Re: Native Instruments just ripped off Push big-time, ha!
Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2016 5:36 pm
by koranek
Plus this seems to rely a lot on touch strips. Nobody seems to have gotten this right yet, including Push. It's just too easy to get weird unmusical jumps in continuity. If you had a modwheel or fader that acted like that, you take the hardware back, because you'd think it was broken. I avoid using Push's touch strip. And that's why I've avoided the Komplete Kontrol keyboard.
Re: Native Instruments just ripped off Push big-time, ha!
Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2016 6:06 pm
by siliconarc
koranek wrote:Plus this seems to rely a lot on touch strips. Nobody seems to have gotten this right yet, including Push. It's just too easy to get weird unmusical jumps in continuity.
Push 1's strip was no problem for me - it just had pretty much zero functionality (mapping, fader control etc.)
Push 2's strip is pretty much useless, jumps and skips all day long like you say - and still has pretty much zero functionality.
i really can't see NI messing this up too. looks like an interesting unit. we'll see.
Re: Native Instruments just ripped off Push big-time, ha!
Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2016 10:31 pm
by muthafunka
Maschine software caves my dome in....
Re: Native Instruments just ripped off Push big-time, ha!
Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2016 7:30 am
by Stromkraft
garyboozy wrote:
Push 1's strip was no problem for me - it just had pretty much zero functionality (mapping, fader control etc.)
Modulation baby. I've had no skips myself using that. Also in PXT Live it controls the last selected parameter.
I do agree it could have been made a lot more nifty though.
Re: Native Instruments just ripped off Push big-time, ha!
Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2016 7:34 am
by Stromkraft
mholloway wrote:
Hmm, sounds familiar...<cough>PUSH<cough>
I don't know, but this is how Rounik Sethi at ask.audio feel about this:
"…there will be the inevitable comparisons for Maschine JAM to the Ableton Push and the Akai Pro APC40. For me, Maschine JAM is completely different from Push and I've never tried the APC40 for more than a few minutes so I can't comment."
->
First Look Video: NI Maschine JAM
In addition, personally I'm not that fond of the Maschine sequencer functionality, but I guess if you like that this can be an interesting product.
Re: Native Instruments just ripped off Push big-time, ha!
Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2016 5:23 pm
by login
Maschine JAm seems exactly the middle point between Push and an APC
Re: Native Instruments just ripped off Push big-time, ha!
Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2016 5:37 pm
by S4racen
I've ordered two...
Cheers
D
Re: Native Instruments just ripped off Push big-time, ha!
Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2016 11:42 pm
by mholloway
S4racen wrote:I've ordered two...
Cheers
D
Wanna send me 800 bucks? I'll happily flush it down my toilet for you.
Re: Native Instruments just ripped off Push big-time, ha!
Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2016 1:48 am
by sana48
is there any functional novelty in this?
in other news: here is a hamster in an inner-tube
Re: Native Instruments just ripped off Push big-time, ha!
Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2016 2:33 am
by Dillinger63
More of a performance controller like the APC but it does integrate with other Maschine's, which is slick.
http://www.synthtopia.com/content/2016/ ... ce-system/
Even so, I'll stick with my Push 2.
Re: Native Instruments just ripped off Push big-time, ha!
Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2016 4:03 am
by InLight-Tone
Come on Abes, do a half push, mixer strip thingy like this to run side by side with Push 2 with even MORE integration...
BUT, please address the arrangement view...(with either/or device)...