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hi, I'm looking for a great product drum machine with dedicated software to enter all the .wav files in the daw albeton live. What products would you recommend to me? me list them up for the price of 800 Euros. excellent quality and price.
you might as well recommend a good midi controller with pad and knobs that have integrado a drum machine, it will not have problems with the software updates with ableton live. I had problems with AKAI APC 40 the old version, akai had a dedicated software that I could use it with ableton live, it happened that I had the Ableton Live software update akai did not work as software.
an example is this hardware drum machine sequencer with VST dedicated albeton live.
https://www.arturia.com/products/drums/spark for example.. it's old school....

Maschine. Hands down. 100%. Great quality hardware. Amazing software package. Lots of great samples from the start and very easy to use as a sampler and old school drum machine.

Hard part is dumping things from Maschine to Live. It's not really 'that' difficult depending on how much flexibility you want.

If you try to 'run' Maschine channels into and out of 10+ Ableton Live channels at once you'll run into trouble.

If you use it as a beatbox vst inside Live on its own it works brilliantly. It is also extremely easy to drag your ideas from Maschine into Live as midi or wav.

yur2die4 wrote:Maschine. Hands down. 100%. Great quality hardware. Amazing software package. Lots of great samples from the start and very easy to use as a sampler and old school drum machine.

Hard part is dumping things from Maschine to Live. It's not really 'that' difficult depending on how much flexibility you want.

If you try to 'run' Maschine channels into and out of 10+ Ableton Live channels at once you'll run into trouble.

If you use it as a beatbox vst inside Live on its own it works brilliantly. It is also extremely easy to drag your ideas from Maschine into Live as midi or wav.

hello, the NI MASCHINE they told me that they can not simultaneously work out in ableton live like this kind of hardware drum machine and sequencer VST dell 'Arturia;
https://www.arturia.com/products/drums/spark/overview
I want something similar to Arturia.

What exactly do you mean?

From what you're describing, it sounds like Maschine actually can do what you are asking.

Perhaps if you could elaborate in more detail what you mean??

Maschine can function standalone or it can be used as a vst inside of Ableton Live.

yur2die4 wrote:What exactly do you mean?

From what you're describing, it sounds like Maschine actually can do what you are asking.

Perhaps if you could elaborate in more detail what you mean??

Maschine can function standalone or it can be used as a vst inside of Ableton Live.

you wrote this:
Maschine can function stand-alone or it can be used as a VST inside of Ableton Live.

NI Maschine can not be used together with ableton live when you make a run, (a creation of techno music at the moment).
Instead Arturia can be used while making a run in ableton live.
You can upload all the .wav files of sample pack. ni maschine is not this possible.

I want to create my track snapshots with ableton live together.
Hardware drum machine sequencer with VST dedicated at the instant with Ableton live just like Arturia which is no longer in business.
I want to upload my pack sample in drum machine hardware such as I described earlier (when they are in musical creation).

Maschine synchronizes perfectly with Live in many different ways.

I don't think there is any kind of way that the Arturia functions that Maschine cannot do. In fact, Maschine in my experience is better and more full featured in almost every way.

The only exception is that the Arturia can change a full kit/pattern very quickly. You can save a lot of distinct beats in one set on the Arturia and recall let's say a breakbeat kit and then quickly switch to a house kit at the press of a button.

With Maschine you would load both kits independently and have them both fully loaded and available if you were to switch 'between' them.

This is a tiny difference. Aside from that, I'd still need more detail on what you mean by 'run' with Live.

Maschine can be a vst and be synced to Live. It can be opened on its own and sync to Live using Link. It can sync on a completely different computer to Ableton Live or Traktor wirelessly using Link. It can easily render wav of loops and midi. It can step sequence and has many midi in/out options. Many audio in/out options. It an host vsts (including massive which is included free), it has its own line of synth drums. And it can handle audio input and output (through your audio interface) for sampling from different sources flexibly, processing, sidecaining, and can output to multiple channels.

Are you talking about being able to play into, trigger, and record in Maschine while Live is in play?

This can be done.


Are you talking about Live being able to 'change sequence' or change presets in Maschine by having Live trigger/change patterns of Maschine?

This can sort of be done but it is more complicated and different from the Arturia

Ni maschine you can not load all external .wav files, NI Maschine uses only of own production files. Hadware artura and his dedicated VST (you can upload all external .wav file); while you create your own music with vst dedicated can work together to albeton live without restriction of anything.

You can list to me the hardware drum machine sequencer with dedicated vst that has no music creation restrictions currently working with Ableton Live? please. Thanks

You can definitely use external wav files in Maschine.

Why not just use a Drum Rack in Live though, that's built right into the program?

Maschine can use any wav file. It is not restricted.

I do not know who told you that you can 'only' use NI samples, but they are wrong.

Honestly, between the Arturia, Maschine and Akai, I can't think of many other solutions of hardware/sampling. And Maschine is one of the most versatile and stable choices.

I think there is also a new Akai hardware coming out, iPad has some options but it is really difficult transferring files.

Also, Push 2 works really well with Drum Racks and you can decide samples to load into the drum racks in Live directly.

Push 2 does not use any vsts and is 100% dependent on Live, but it gives you step sequencing with Live clips and let's you view samples you've loaded into drum racks on its display.

Here is a video explaining wave sample import and how to tag the samples so they are accessible inside the hardware:
https://youtu.be/Bb6aTVz7LcM

yur2die4 wrote:Maschine can use any wav file. It is not restricted.

I do not know who told you that you can 'only' use NI samples, but they are wrong.

Honestly, between the Arturia, Maschine and Akai, I can't think of many other solutions of hardware/sampling. And Maschine is one of the most versatile and stable choices.

I think there is also a new Akai hardware coming out, iPad has some options but it is really difficult transferring files.

Also, Push 2 works really well with Drum Racks and you can decide samples to load into the drum racks in Live directly.

Push 2 does not use any vsts and is 100% dependent on Live, but it gives you step sequencing with Live clips and let's you view samples you've loaded into drum racks on its display.

informed me of me a person who has 30 years of experience in music, he told me that the Ni maschine uses its preset and can not load external .wav file. The Ni maschine can not create music simultaneously with ableton live. (As if it were a drum old school hardware machine) example: upload files with SD card, you work with inseririte file in sd card, you load them into its schools of memory, you work with the creations that you just entered. musical creation will stop there. Instead I will create as I explained earlier along with albeton live without restrictions.
the push2 is not my case; I have a video in Italian (my native language) a tutorial explaining how to use push2, he admits that push2 and study not for snapshots creations because it takes a lot of patience and loss of time to load the various effects that occur, he shows on the push2 dispaly that there are only a few knobs to find an effect, you first click with your mouce pc. (It is not for me). I must have full momentary creation without loss of time when they have all the faders, knobs, pad available instantly. I still have not found Kardware suitable for me, I trust in you who are more experienced than me. I ask your help even a reply to me after a few days the important thing is to find the right solution for my needs.
Hardware drum machine sequencer with VST dedicated not having links with ableto live and must have all knobs with various multieffects without clicking anything.

Tarekith wrote:You can definitely use external wav files in Maschine.

Why not just use a Drum Rack in Live though, that's built right into the program?

I had thought about it but what midi controller is best suited to my needs? I create music techno. I need all pads, knobs, faders. I used a midi AKAI APC40, however, its dedicated software stopped working as soon as Ableton Live controller has been updated .. I stood there badly. in the future it should not happen to a thing which is why I would like to take the direction of a dedicated hardware with vst working my creations with ableton live right now and not later.

gexcube wrote:
informed me of me a person who has 30 years of experience in music, he told me that the Ni maschine uses its preset and can not load external .wav file.

This is getting repetitive. This person is WRONG. And you repeating this claim after you have been told how it really is, reflects badly on you.

.... in Italian (my native language)...

If your english is bad, you should try to use very simplified language to get your points across, because what you write is really hard to understand.

The Ni maschine can not create music simultaneously with ableton live. (As if it were a drum old school hardware machine) example: upload files with SD card, you work with inseririte file in sd card, you load them into its schools of memory, you work with the creations that you just entered.

Yes it can. In every way. Ableton and Maschine are running on the same computer (with Maschine standalone) or even both in Live (.vst version)
You can sequence music in both simultaneously. You can record music into both simultaneously (.vst. Standalone may depend on how you connect your soundcard) . And hell if you install a SD card reader on your computer, you can load new files from SD cards.

But of course Maschine is a MIDI controller at its heart. So you can't actually load samples onto the device (the controller), or run it without a computer.
If you want that look into MPCs or maybe even better an Korg Electribe Sampler. These devices work on their own without a computer. But the integration for working simultaneously is harder to achieve. I'm not so sure if they already work with Link.

But the Electribe exports your creations as Ableton Live Sets. That's very convenient.

Hardware drum machine sequencer with VST dedicated not having links with ableto live and must have all knobs with various multieffects without clicking anything.

That definitely describes the Electribe minus the .vst part.