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No clipping while recording - Compressor?

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2017 7:54 pm
by Sc0RcH
Hi, there!

I was wondering if there is a way to completely remove clipping while recording vocals? I know I can lower the levels, but sometimes I get a pretty high scream and I don't have that much time to move away from the microphone, lol. I just want a small wall that will avoid the waveform to go beyond the limit. I tried adding the compressor while recording, but heck, clipping was still there.

Re: No clipping while recording - Compressor?

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2017 8:31 pm
by Richie Witch
You want a limiter, which is a type of compressor. Live's native Limiter should do the trick for you.

Re: No clipping while recording - Compressor?

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2017 8:40 pm
by chapelier fou
You'd need a compressor BEFORE your soundcard. Anything clipped is clipped.

Re: No clipping while recording - Compressor?

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2017 8:42 pm
by jlgrimes
Several things to try:

1. Turn down your preamp gain. If you are clipping, you might be recording too hot. You should try aiming for a maximum peak anywhere from -20 dbfs to -10 dbfs. I find when I aim that low, I get nowhere near clipping. It is also possible you might have a mic with high gain or a pre with a high minimum gain. If your mic or pre has a pad switch, it should solve that issue. I'm assuming you are recording at 24 bit.

2. Get further from mic. If you are 6 inches from mic, do you clip at 12 inches.

3. Record with external preamp and compressor.

4. Get a UAD Apollo and record with compression.

Re: No clipping while recording - Compressor?

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2017 11:51 pm
by Richie Witch
Ummmm... yeah. You're both right. My only excuse was that I was still at work and my brain was elsewhere. Please ignore my post. :oops: :lol:

Re: No clipping while recording - Compressor?

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 12:01 am
by kb420
Sc0RcH wrote:Hi, there!

I was wondering if there is a way to completely remove clipping while recording vocals? I know I can lower the levels, but sometimes I get a pretty high scream and I don't have that much time to move away from the microphone, lol. I just want a small wall that will avoid the waveform to go beyond the limit. I tried adding the compressor while recording, but heck, clipping was still there.
Hey, if money is no object, grab one of these. Not a plug in, but the real thing. Problem solved.

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Re: No clipping while recording - Compressor?

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 3:49 pm
by jlgrimes
kb420 wrote:
Sc0RcH wrote:Hi, there!

I was wondering if there is a way to completely remove clipping while recording vocals? I know I can lower the levels, but sometimes I get a pretty high scream and I don't have that much time to move away from the microphone, lol. I just want a small wall that will avoid the waveform to go beyond the limit. I tried adding the compressor while recording, but heck, clipping was still there.
Hey, if money is no object, grab one of these. Not a plug in, but the real thing. Problem solved.

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This is one of the compressors the UAD Apollo emulates. Matter of fact they have 4 different version of the LA2A.

They probably don't sound 100% like the real thing but at the same time the Apollo can emulate other compressors at well if you want to totally change your sound up.


But that said the LA2As are really nice vocal compressors for smoothing out a vocal and are easy to use as well.

Re: No clipping while recording - Compressor?

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2017 8:45 am
by dysanfel
The best limiter is working the mic. It takes practice.