UC-33e: use faders for note input ? sliders for note input?

dj_statikfire · Post by **dj_statikfire** » Fri Jul 08, 2005 5:48 pm

Hello, Crew.

I'm wondering...

Is it possible to use the faders on the UC-33e (or any other usb controller that has faders) for note input, like a step sequencer?

I'd love to be able to select a step, use a single fader to select a note.

If Ableton doesn't allow this, does any one know of a plug in?

Thank you,
Jason D.

smart1123 · Post by **smart1123** » Fri Jul 08, 2005 6:47 pm

Plogue Bidule, I think someone here built a sequencer like that for it conny maybe?

Machinate · Post by **Machinate** » Fri Jul 08, 2005 8:14 pm

screw bidule. If all you want is a quick and dirty monophonic step sequencer then you can do it yourself in Live - both v.4 and 5. Here's how, it's really quick.

*Set up 16 midi tracks.
*Route them all to another midi track - number 17.
*Make an empty one-bar loop in each of the top clip slots of the 16 tracks.
*In track one, do a 16th note on the first 16th. In the second track drop a 16th note on the second 16th and so on.
*play the scene. You should now see the lights running down through the 16 tracks.
*Now start dropping in lives pitch fx, one on each of the 16.
*Assign these to faders and or knobs.
*assign the on/off buttons of these tracks to either qwerty keys or midi controllers.
*if you want to, you can also drop a velocity plugin on each step. This will let you control the filter in simpler for instance.
*And of course drop a scale plugin on the "master" midi track.

EDIT: You can find the als file for this neat trick in this thread:
http://www.ableton.com/forum/viewtopic. ... highlight=

Machinate · Post by **Machinate** » Fri Jul 08, 2005 8:30 pm

oh, and the beauty of this setup is of course that you can record all these sequences as midi. Should I do a setup that demonstrates this?

dj_statikfire · Post by **dj_statikfire** » Fri Jul 08, 2005 8:56 pm

Machinate,

Wow, that's a very clever solution. I appreciate your help.

THX,
Jason D.

Machinate · Post by **Machinate** » Fri Jul 08, 2005 9:00 pm

ya welcome, mate. It's good fun, too - and it's dead-easy to grab clips and save them.

Machinate · Post by **Machinate** » Fri Jul 08, 2005 10:04 pm

alright party people, limited time only, first come..., here's the .als.

http://s11.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2IL9 ... W7ULCFZ4CG

Oh, and it's live5 beta only, sorry guys.
Andreas

Lo-Fi Massahkah · Post by **Lo-Fi Massahkah** » Fri Oct 14, 2005 6:25 pm

Cool! I'll try that right away!

/Mikael

forge · Post by **forge** » Thu Dec 22, 2005 1:00 pm

Andreas, could you post that file again or send it to me and I'll stick it on my serverspace?

cheers

Machinate · Post by **Machinate** » Thu Dec 22, 2005 1:18 pm

wow, forge - cool bump!

I'll upload it in a while - I'll update it with a wicked sound I'm working on.

forge · Post by **forge** » Thu Dec 22, 2005 1:43 pm

actually dont worry, I've sorted it...amazing thinking there ace

cool trick to play with - only I'm not sure how I'd use it, but one of those ones that is just fun little practical application.

unless you have some suggested usage??

forge · Post by **forge** » Thu Dec 22, 2005 1:45 pm

ok..would like to hear it with a cool sound and how you use it

Machinate · Post by **Machinate** » Thu Dec 22, 2005 2:19 pm

Alright: I'll describe my use of it before doing another upload:

I use it together with a behringer bcr2000 - it has 32 rotary encoders and 16 buttons with some kind of status indicator. I use the top two encoder rows to set the pitch of each step (by tweaking the pitch plugin on each of the tracks) and the bottom two rows I use to change the velocity of these tracks (by tweaking a vel. plugin on each track) The buttons toggle mute for each of these tracks. So I can basically have a clear view of Note on/off, pitch and velocity of 16 tracks/steps with just one preset on the bcr.
I route all the midi to a synth (most often through a scale plugin) and then I tweak until I like the pattern. I can then capture this pattern with yet another midi track, and save a series of tweaks as clips for later use. I'll add a bunch of clips to this upload as well, so you can get a feel for the types of sound that come from this. Also a couple of the covert operator clips in SoundWrecks are made like this.

forge · Post by **forge** » Thu Dec 22, 2005 11:03 pm

Machinate wrote:Alright: I'll describe my use of it before doing another upload:

I use it together with a behringer bcr2000 - it has 32 rotary encoders and 16 buttons with some kind of status indicator. I use the top two encoder rows to set the pitch of each step (by tweaking the pitch plugin on each of the tracks) and the bottom two rows I use to change the velocity of these tracks (by tweaking a vel. plugin on each track) The buttons toggle mute for each of these tracks. So I can basically have a clear view of Note on/off, pitch and velocity of 16 tracks/steps with just one preset on the bcr.
I route all the midi to a synth (most often through a scale plugin) and then I tweak until I like the pattern. I can then capture this pattern with yet another midi track, and save a series of tweaks as clips for later use. I'll add a bunch of clips to this upload as well, so you can get a feel for the types of sound that come from this. Also a couple of the covert operator clips in SoundWrecks are made like this.

coool...sounds interesting, I was doing it with a UC-33 - I just found changing the pitch wasnt exactly an exact science - quite hard to change one semitone - but I'll try the velocity and recording to another midi clip - I didnt think of that so I suppose that makes sense for a good hands on way of writing a clip

very very clever thinking!

Machinate · Post by **Machinate** » Fri Dec 23, 2005 10:22 am

hey forge, definitely use a scale plugin on this, that reduces errors quite a bit. And yeah, the uc-33 makes it pretty difficult to hit exact values. Doesn't matter much with a scale plugin, everything will sound good