Hi everybody,
I need a unit which gives me the possibility to program beats via midi or usb with pads, and is also able to be a sampler for life gigs (cos I do not want to use my pc), where i can play playbacks and beats with the pads. As far as I know only these 2 units in lower price regions are able to do this. Does anyone have experiences with both or one of those units and likes to share them with me?
thanks and regards
cherry
live and Boss Sp 606 or Akai MPC 1000
live and Boss Sp 606 or Akai MPC 1000
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Pro's and Con's Mpc1000 vs SP606
do you wanna know anything specific about them in comparison? i have them both
the mpc is the best in terms of a hardware base sequencer creating and what not.. but the sp606 is better because it has some good quality effects that blows the mpc 1000 away other than the fact that you can record for 3 hours i use it to mixdown to... -> also when it comes to the usb transfering the sp606 is better because with the mpc you have to keep taking the cable out to bring the mpc1000 out of limbo..... the sp606 only has 8 voice polyphony where as the mpc 1000 has 32 voice so there is allota trade offs -> i already had the mpc 1000 but and it sucked alone the sp606 look more appealing for me working the computer on a regular basis creating so i got the sp606 and found i cannot sell my mpc 1000 because loosing it as a sequencer is no good.... not worth it.... the sp606?????? as a sequencer completely sucks so i will some it up like this!!
the sp606 scores big for people needing a piece that provides the following:
1. As a good midi controller tho limited to (3 knobs and dbeam with the pads to trigger).
2. A good effects out of the box to support the cheesy computer effects.
3. The sp606 can be used as a dat machine you never have to worry about saving.
4. the sp606 is basically an audio and midi interface in one with built in effect
and it can record samples as a phrases sampler.
The MPC 1000
1. It is a hardware dedicated sequencer that works well.
2. Good pads all tho they are slightly smaller than all the other series.
3. The Mpc is always a good invest for programming and seqencing over midi
but it is not a necessity.
4. the only computer inter-gration with the mpc 1000s is the midi in and out ports
and the usb function that sucks
You will still need a midi interface to use the mpc with a computer
a perfect match up would be the m-audio uno 1x1 piece.
the usb on the mpc is a half ass job because after you are done
you have to keep disconnecting the usb cable to bring the mpc 1000
back to life out of limbo!!
where as on the sp606 it works like a dream.
the sp606 is made i believe to be used in conjuction with a computer
it compliments computer DAWs like ableton live like a dream.
The MPC works like a dream for sequencing and programming beats
working with samples via internally or over midi using it as a controller
for the pads but that is it other than the crappy usb function..
any other question?
so it depends on your purpose? really
the mpc is the best in terms of a hardware base sequencer creating and what not.. but the sp606 is better because it has some good quality effects that blows the mpc 1000 away other than the fact that you can record for 3 hours i use it to mixdown to... -> also when it comes to the usb transfering the sp606 is better because with the mpc you have to keep taking the cable out to bring the mpc1000 out of limbo..... the sp606 only has 8 voice polyphony where as the mpc 1000 has 32 voice so there is allota trade offs -> i already had the mpc 1000 but and it sucked alone the sp606 look more appealing for me working the computer on a regular basis creating so i got the sp606 and found i cannot sell my mpc 1000 because loosing it as a sequencer is no good.... not worth it.... the sp606?????? as a sequencer completely sucks so i will some it up like this!!
the sp606 scores big for people needing a piece that provides the following:
1. As a good midi controller tho limited to (3 knobs and dbeam with the pads to trigger).
2. A good effects out of the box to support the cheesy computer effects.
3. The sp606 can be used as a dat machine you never have to worry about saving.
4. the sp606 is basically an audio and midi interface in one with built in effect
and it can record samples as a phrases sampler.
The MPC 1000
1. It is a hardware dedicated sequencer that works well.
2. Good pads all tho they are slightly smaller than all the other series.
3. The Mpc is always a good invest for programming and seqencing over midi
but it is not a necessity.
4. the only computer inter-gration with the mpc 1000s is the midi in and out ports
and the usb function that sucks
You will still need a midi interface to use the mpc with a computer
a perfect match up would be the m-audio uno 1x1 piece.
the usb on the mpc is a half ass job because after you are done
you have to keep disconnecting the usb cable to bring the mpc 1000
back to life out of limbo!!
where as on the sp606 it works like a dream.
the sp606 is made i believe to be used in conjuction with a computer
it compliments computer DAWs like ableton live like a dream.
The MPC works like a dream for sequencing and programming beats
working with samples via internally or over midi using it as a controller
for the pads but that is it other than the crappy usb function..
any other question?
so it depends on your purpose? really
Re: Pro's and Con's Mpc1000 vs SP606
chikabee wrote:do you wanna know anything specific about them in comparison? i have them both.............any other question?
so it depends on your purpose? really
Hi chikabee,
first of all, thanks a lot for the detailed information.
If I get you right, none of those "samplers" will perfectly suite.
I want to use the pads to play drum beats via midi into live (soon 5
), or better (because of latency) directly into the sampler loaded with *.wav sounds via usb from my pc. I do not really need the fx, you mentioned within the Roland, but shure this would helpful using it live, because of the better data capacity. If I understand you right, the Roland is not able to be used as Midi Pad as the MPC 1000 MPD 16 or the new trigger Finger. But this is what I am also looking for. And if the Akai doesn´t work with usb properly to load sounds, then both of them wont fit.
Probably I have to buy a Laptop and the MPC 16 or trigger Finger for the best solution for programming and playbacking.
damn money.But thanks again anyway.
gruhfy greetz
cherry
cheers, michael
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Let me clearify more.
Ok now i know what you wanna do..
to answer your question both are cool for
the use of the pads the both do this easy and well
but the with the mpc1000 you will need to use midi cables with a midi interface.
the sp606 carries everything over the one usb cable ausio and midi.
if you are going be using live software to create like you said well then
the best bet for you would be the sp606 it work better with a computer
OH wait one important thing to note here is the fact that the mpc 1000 does
not have aany realtime controller knobs you can set up and use in Live
it is always good to have some more knobs somewhere you can assign and use.
i did not want to go the route of buying any of the products you mentioned
because they are controllers only kinda like a joystick!! that is useful for only
one thing!!!
SO i brought into the mpc for the sequencer ability first tthen second its pads and third its usb!!
AND the sp606 i brought because it is suite a computer more well it has pads and controllers for realtime and nice effects built in.... BUT the sequencer is shitty
i think because yyou cannot use it to control outside gear only the internal sample
pads ------ so i thought it is a trade of it is more of a phrase sample not like the
mpc! THe memory it give with a 512mb compact flash card is amazing i use it
like a dat phrase sample...
Most people who work with a computer already have a midi or audio interface of some sort since the mpc1000 has digital spdif in and out i dont tamper with
the usb things it takes to long to use on the mpc1000..
BUt the sp606 does things proper because it is made to be use with computer
but is can do many more things. thats the low down.
to answer your question both are cool for
the use of the pads the both do this easy and well
but the with the mpc1000 you will need to use midi cables with a midi interface.
the sp606 carries everything over the one usb cable ausio and midi.
if you are going be using live software to create like you said well then
the best bet for you would be the sp606 it work better with a computer
OH wait one important thing to note here is the fact that the mpc 1000 does
not have aany realtime controller knobs you can set up and use in Live
it is always good to have some more knobs somewhere you can assign and use.
i did not want to go the route of buying any of the products you mentioned
because they are controllers only kinda like a joystick!! that is useful for only
one thing!!!
SO i brought into the mpc for the sequencer ability first tthen second its pads and third its usb!!
AND the sp606 i brought because it is suite a computer more well it has pads and controllers for realtime and nice effects built in.... BUT the sequencer is shitty
i think because yyou cannot use it to control outside gear only the internal sample
pads ------ so i thought it is a trade of it is more of a phrase sample not like the
mpc! THe memory it give with a 512mb compact flash card is amazing i use it
like a dat phrase sample...
Most people who work with a computer already have a midi or audio interface of some sort since the mpc1000 has digital spdif in and out i dont tamper with
the usb things it takes to long to use on the mpc1000..
BUt the sp606 does things proper because it is made to be use with computer
but is can do many more things. thats the low down.
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Re: Let me clearify more.
Hi chikabee,chikabee wrote:Ok now i know what you wanna do....
wow, thanx a lot again for the fast and thorough answers. This helps a lot
...and if I take a look at the price,
the sp606 sounds real nice
.thanks again and again and good luck
cherry
cheers, michael
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Great post chickabee.
Got a quick question for you. I am trying to use my squenceing in my MPC as a compliment to my Abelton arrangements. Is there a way to activate the MPC 2000 XL playback on the fly once Abelton is already in play mode. I always encounter MIDI TC problems which require me to stop abelton playback before I can start the sequence in the MPC.
Thanks
Got a quick question for you. I am trying to use my squenceing in my MPC as a compliment to my Abelton arrangements. Is there a way to activate the MPC 2000 XL playback on the fly once Abelton is already in play mode. I always encounter MIDI TC problems which require me to stop abelton playback before I can start the sequence in the MPC.
Thanks