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Dear people, I've looking for this answer for hours now.

The question is quite simple: How can I duplicate a track so I have the same track and doubled MIDI mappings. So, if I would have a track with a synth, and I would map the filtering to a Midi controller knob, and then duplicate that track, the MIDI controller knob would control the filter on both tracks. Problem: it doesn't work, after duplicating there are no mappings related to the new track. And saving the first track as an Ableton project and dragging it in also doesn't work.

The reason I ask is because I want to make a MIDI mapping template for a MIDI controller with motions sensors. I want to go through the tedious mapping process only ONCE. In the template I mapped all the motions to Macro controls (in Instrument Rack, Midi Effects Rack as well as Audio Effects Rack), so during a performance, while dancers are using the motion sensors, I can drag devices into those racks on-the-fly and change the macro mappings without the MIDI mappings flipping all over the place. That works, so that isn't the problem. But the issue is: I've made several compositions and want to quickly convert them to these Ableton projects that allow on-the-fly changes (with the effects racks with pre-set macro mappings that I was just talking about). So what I need to do is, copy that first track with all the macro mappings a bunch of times, and then drag in all the tracks from my compositions. Mapping everything again for every track takes way too much time.

I hope I'm making myself a tiny bit clear. Maybe the solution lies in remote scripts, but I don't know how either.

Cheers,
Rutger

rutger_muller wrote:Maybe the solution lies in remote scripts, but I don't know how either.

I think that's the right track to take for what you want. jestermgee gave this excellent response to a similar question a while ago:

jestermgee wrote:If you are using the Macro controls of an instrument rack (which you don't specifically have to but if you are happy with that) then you can look into User Remote Scripts for your keyboard and make it into a "Control Surface". Depending on your keyboard model there may already be support in Live for it.

Having a control surface script will allow the controls on your keyboard to automatically map to the first 8 controls of a selected plugin (or to the macro controls of a rack) saving you to do anything and it will then follow your selection.

There is support for loads of common controllers/keyboards on the market but it is possible using "User Remote Scripts" to make a setup for any controller.

Otherwise yes, you need to map when you load a plugin as MIDI assignments are saved with a project not with the individual device.

What is your keyboard?

>>Full Discussion: Instrument rack midi mapping

Stromkraft wrote:

rutger_muller wrote:Maybe the solution lies in remote scripts, but I don't know how either.

I think that's the right track to take for what you want. jestermgee gave this excellent response to a similar question a while ago:

jestermgee wrote:If you are using the Macro controls of an instrument rack (which you don't specifically have to but if you are happy with that) then you can look into User Remote Scripts for your keyboard and make it into a "Control Surface". Depending on your keyboard model there may already be support in Live for it.

Having a control surface script will allow the controls on your keyboard to automatically map to the first 8 controls of a selected plugin (or to the macro controls of a rack) saving you to do anything and it will then follow your selection.

There is support for loads of common controllers/keyboards on the market but it is possible using "User Remote Scripts" to make a setup for any controller.

Otherwise yes, you need to map when you load a plugin as MIDI assignments are saved with a project not with the individual device.

What is your keyboard?

>>Full Discussion: Instrument rack midi mapping

Thank you! Checking it...

I think this still won't work because making a Control Surface that can be selected in Live's preferences, will only automatically map control to the currently selected track right?

That is correct.

There is no other way of doing what you're asking via MIDI as this is hard coded to a specific control.

Control Surfaces allow for controls to be given to elements in focus, specifically the macro controls.

Cheers
D

I'm just gonna cry now.

rutger_muller wrote: I want to make a MIDI mapping template for a MIDI controller with motions sensors.

Isn't there a community or interested developers that potentially would like to cater for this controller?

You could use a max 4 live device called MultiMap. It creates a single knob that you can map to 8 destinations, including another multimap knob.

So, you could drop a bunch of these into a midi track and then map them to the macro knobs in other tracks such that when you turn one knob, the rest of them turn as well.