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Hi Guys - wondering how best to achieve this:
Have a vocal track with some compression eq and light reverb as main centre vocal track then copy of same vocal with additional delays reverb and ducking of various effects with lfo tool and compressor but this time the dry signal is muted and only can hear effects - this way I can mix both vocal tracks (the main one and the one with effects only)

Something similar can be achieved in logic by sending one vox to a bus etc - how can we do this in ableton?

Hi, sorry its a little unclear what your goal is.

Are you looking to have a fx channel that is side chained from your vocal?

FX channel yes where I don’t have dry vocals just effects and can automate those effects as I want, while another track has main vocals with little or no fx processing

Effects have a Dry/Wet control. If you put them as 100% wet, they will not have any dry signal in them. So just set your second set of effects to 100% wet.

As to how you want to have your two sets of vocals setup depends on you. Here are a couple of examples:

1) One track solution:
- On your main vocal track, create an effects rack with two chains on it, one for the first set of effects (main), the other chain for the second set of effects (100% wet)

2) Two tracks solution:
- Create one track (Track 1) with the main vocal and the first set of effects (main).
- Create a second audio track (Track 2)(no need for the vocal on this track) with the second set of effects (100% wet)
- Change the I/O input of this second track (Track 2) to be from the first main vocal track (Track 1)
- Choose the input to be - Pre-Fx - that way you are accessing the main vocal in track 1, but without that track's effects
- Choose "Monitor: In" to receive audio from Track 1 on Track 2

If you need help with Live's I/O routings, here is the manual section on this:
14.6 Internal Routings
https://www.ableton.com/en/manual/routing-and-i-o/

SMRhythm wrote:
Something similar can be achieved in logic by sending one vox to a bus etc - how can we do this in ableton?

By using a buss (routing) or aux (processing)? In Live that's an audio track, monitor set to "in". Set the outputs of the tracks you want here to this buss or aux. This is how I've set up my drum buss.

If you want to use a duplicate with the same signal you can set the source of the other (wet) track to the original (dry) track, pre-fader tapping point makes the most sense I think, and do your processing there.

Thank you guys, will try these out