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PUSH 2 AND ASSIGNING CC'S TO DECODERS

Posted: Mon May 21, 2018 7:24 pm
by purplemusicandmedia
Hi all,

I've searched high and low and would appreciate it if someone can point me in the direction of how to assign CC's to the decoders ect in user mode. I want to be able to control the volume faders in a Behringer XR18 which I have successfully done with a cheapo 15 years old Evolution controller. When I go into user mode the screen just says user Mode Active. HELP!!!!!

Re: PUSH 2 AND ASSIGNING CC'S TO DECODERS

Posted: Mon May 21, 2018 8:59 pm
by frabo
take something like this :

https://www.orderedbytes.com

it works great for me ;-)

Re: PUSH 2 AND ASSIGNING CC'S TO DECODERS

Posted: Mon May 21, 2018 9:37 pm
by purplemusicandmedia
Many thanks but I'm on Window 7

Re: PUSH 2 AND ASSIGNING CC'S TO DECODERS

Posted: Tue May 22, 2018 7:09 am
by Stromkraft
purplemusicandmedia wrote:Hi all,

I've searched high and low and would appreciate it if someone can point me in the direction of how to assign CC's to the decoders ect in user mode. I want to be able to control the volume faders in a Behringer XR18 which I have successfully done with a cheapo 15 years old Evolution controller. When I go into user mode the screen just says user Mode Active. HELP!!!!!
Do you mean the encoder knobs?
Why must it be in user mode? User mode means you're on your own, i e install something that can drive the XR18 or build it yourself. As this is a mixer have you investigated Mackie control scripts?
Otherwise you can use a MFL device and assign MIDI CC, I believe. Look for something suitable at maxforlive.com for example.

Re: PUSH 2 AND ASSIGNING CC'S TO DECODERS

Posted: Tue May 22, 2018 1:00 pm
by purplemusicandmedia
I found some bits on M4L and I'm going to make it later after work. Once I've done it I'll post it as a Live file. I would have loved this to all be working straight away but I suppose thats the beauty of Live and M4L there is always a way. Just took me a few weeks to sort it out! lol Many thanks thanks though for the replies.

Re: PUSH 2 AND ASSIGNING CC'S TO DECODERS

Posted: Tue May 22, 2018 5:13 pm
by yur2die4
Here is a rough idea of the general behavior when mapping To things within Live. Changing the CC# is a whole other can of worms. They are not editable within the device, you need to use something else to translate. But also note that the default behavior is not absolute control but relative.

https://help.ableton.com/hc/en-us/artic ... I-mappings

To find the default cc numbers just map the user mode encoders to any device. (Since there is also a note on/off when you ‘touch’ the endorsers you might have to do the ‘undo’ command once to step back one mapping)

Re: PUSH 2 AND ASSIGNING CC'S TO DECODERS

Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2018 1:53 pm
by Airyck
The Behringer X Air series uses OSC commands to control most of the knobs/effects/etc...

That said... you "can" control the faders with CC#'s

But, CC controls are limited in the XR series so you may have to try and implement some OSC controls if you want to control anything else. There will be little bit of a learning curve if you've never used OSC before but in the end it's not very complicated.

Here are the OSC commands that are available on the X Air series

https://forum.musictri.be/attachment.ph ... 1517959361

For example: Mix controls

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mix/                                      ch rtn bus send lr
      on            [0,1]                     ch rtn bus send lr       // OFF, ON; channel on/off
      fader         [0.0,1.0] fader(1024)     ch rtn bus send lr       // -oo..10
      lr            [0,1]                     ch rtn bus               // OFF, ON; route to lr
      pan           [0.0,1.0] lin(101)        ch rtn bus      lr       // -100..100; bal on lr
      01..n/                                  10 10
        level       [0.0,1.0] level(161)      ch rtn                   // -oo..10
        grpon       [0,1]                     ch rtn                   // to group on/off
        tap         [0,5]                     ch rtn                   // IN, PREEQ, POSTEQ, PRE, POST, GRP
        pan (odd)   [0.0,1.0] lin(101)        ch rtn                   // -100..100; on sends 01,03,05 only
You could convert CC to OSC to control any parameter in the mixer including the FX etc...


Alternatively:

These are what can be controlled by CC

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