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Richie Hawtin DJing with Ableton and Serato Scratch Live
Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 5:18 pm
by musick
Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 5:34 pm
by kabuki
It must be really good, because there is a row of people standing there staring at all that cool gear!
WHY do people go to a DJ gig to enjoy dance music and just stand there looking bored (and boring)?
Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 5:34 pm
by anti-banausic
I just watched my friend use Serato all night last night, and was thinking the same thing. Two decks and one laptop for Serato, and one laptop for mixing in Ableton.
Damn that would be hot. Wonder if I could use my old PIII 900Mhz for serato??? Already have a five channel mixer....
hmmmmmm
Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 5:42 pm
by musick
anti-banausic wrote:I just watched my friend use Serato all night last night, and was thinking the same thing. Two decks and one laptop for Serato, and one laptop for mixing in Ableton.
Damn that would be hot. Wonder if I could use my old PIII 900Mhz for serato??? Already have a five channel mixer....
hmmmmmm
On my Shuttle PC (P4, 2.8 HGz) I can run Serato and Live at the same time and switch screens with the TAB. I also use the C-Loops but miss a way to adjust the tempo of Live like a turntable. The modified A&H Xone has a special knob to do this in an easy way.
When the new Mac hardware (based on Intel) comes out you can do all this with one laptop
Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 6:13 pm
by drush
cracks me up how often this comes up as something new... he's been doing this for years now. he uses both computers at the same time, so you couldn't do this with one machine. one computer is source (FS or SSL), and the ableton computer is his efx rig for the dj stuff, as well as (duh) the occasional 'live' thing. the c-loops comes back into a channel strip for individual looping of whatever (more duh), plus it's the bpm clock source for the ableton computer.
in june he was using an alienware laptop for the ableton computer. usually it's 2 powerbooks, as it looks like in these pics. and of course testing SSL.
Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 7:10 pm
by musick
drush wrote:cracks me up how often this comes up as something new... he's been doing this for years now. he uses both computers at the same time, so you couldn't do this with one machine. one computer is source (FS or SSL), and the ableton computer is his efx rig for the dj stuff, as well as (duh) the occasional 'live' thing. the c-loops comes back into a channel strip for individual looping of whatever (more duh), plus it's the bpm clock source for the ableton computer.
in june he was using an alienware laptop for the ableton computer. usually it's 2 powerbooks, as it looks like in these pics. and of course testing SSL.
The 'new' thing about it is that he is playing with SSL instead of FS
The c-loops has no MIDI, the ableton computer gets it's clock from the Xone. This modified Xone has a button on it to set the tempo and to 'nudge' up/down the MIDI time, making Live behave like a deck.
Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 7:54 pm
by drush
oh yeh you're right.. the red sound (peavey) thing does bpm detection but not out. i always forget it didn't act like their other bpm/sync doohickey.
Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 11:38 pm
by detroitechno
musick wrote:When the new Mac hardware (based on Intel) comes out you can do all this with one laptop
you can NOT run both programs off of 1 computer. when you run two seperate soundcards this way (with turntables, line leve, and 2nd soundcard line leve). you will cause a ground loop or 'buzzing' sound. try it and you will see what I'm talking about.
also, having everything on one computer isn't a great idea cause your doubling your chances of something going wrong. 2 computers, you always have a back-up running.
good luck!
Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2005 12:19 am
by robtronik
that set up works if you have the time to set it up in advance. But for most gigs, forget about it.
You are lucky if you can pop two line ins on the main (dj) mixer and get your stuff set up (hopefully while not pissing off the person playing before you)....
But after searching for the holy grail of DJ performance gear over the last several years (I've owned all that stuff that hawtin is using there), I think the best thing to have is a kick ass laptop, some kick ass midi interfaces, and an absolute mastery of Live and your ability to play the midi interfaces as an instrument.
And only two lines in for the DJ mixer...
That's simple.
rob.
Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2005 12:39 am
by finn snor
robtronik wrote:
But after searching for the holy grail of DJ performance gear over the last several years (I've owned all that stuff that hawtin is using there), I think the best thing to have is a kick ass laptop, some kick ass midi interfaces, and an absolute mastery of Live and your ability to play the midi interfaces as an instrument.
You had a Zone 92 mixer with midi? (we all know youre lying but anyway) With richies setup its a breeeeeeeeeeezze to set up.
Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2005 12:58 am
by Kage
Serato owns Finalcrash.. I use to be a user, but I switched when SSL came out and never looked back..
Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2005 1:01 am
by Kage
And also.. speaking of Richie.. he's playing one of my new records that was completely made in Ableton 4... he played it in his last essential mix on bbc's radio 1.. Thank you ableton
Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2005 1:04 am
by AdamJay
kabuki, you are right.
the best way to enjoy Hawtin is right in the middle of the dancefloor.
preferably equidistant from all 4 speakers in a quad sound set up
Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2005 2:00 am
by Raoulofdenmark
AdamJay wrote:kabuki, you are right.
the best way to enjoy Hawtin is right in the middle of the dancefloor.
preferably equidistant from all 4 speakers in a quad sound set up
You bet ! And I was there last nite where those pictures were taken ;=)
Richie was briliant ! Hehe
Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2005 4:22 am
by robtronik
finn snor wrote:robtronik wrote:
But after searching for the holy grail of DJ performance gear over the last several years (I've owned all that stuff that hawtin is using there), I think the best thing to have is a kick ass laptop, some kick ass midi interfaces, and an absolute mastery of Live and your ability to play the midi interfaces as an instrument.
You had a Zone 92 mixer with midi? (we all know youre lying but anyway) With richies setup its a breeeeeeeeeeezze to set up.
Not only did I own it, I still have it. It is the best DJ Mixer I've ever owned, bar none.
rob.
