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CJing with LIVE! R U Ready 4 it? ;)

Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2005 12:13 am
by CJ Vega
Hi Everybody!

I’ve been using Live since version 1 and in fact now we can say that is probably the best software in the market.

Live has gave me (and you) the possibility to create a new concept, the CJ witch stands for Computer Jogging and the ability to combine two worlds in a row: DJing & Production!

Basically in Live 5 the warp is almost perfect, so pretty soon the monkey business of pitching with decks and turntables will be a thing of the past. The MMA will follow and new horizons will open to the community, yes, the Multi Media Artist, combining Audio, Midi and Video in one shot, like the one-man-band used to do in the past. (Artists like Plastikman already have developed this concept with special controllers like the CTRL (www.plastikman.com), but with new controllers on the board, soon we can all get our hands on them!)

Actually in my live sets I’m using 2x PowerBooks so that the MMA concept will pass the "beta testing" and soon I’ll be ready to present it to the world:

Live+Reason in one PBG4 + Akaos VJ soft in the other!

Result? = Simple, everything matches perfectly!
Imagine that you assign a knob in your controller to send ccs at ctrl #23
to control the filter at the subtractor, at the same time the same knob will be assign to control a filter effect on channel 1 at Live and at the same cc will control the speed of a tunnel effect from a layer at the VJ software!!

Get ready 4 it, it’s already there! ;)

Cheers,

CJ VEGA

Porto - Portugal

Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2005 12:22 am
by ben_blue
cheers to that!
im right there behind ya :D
been waiting for these times for a long time.
next up is my DIY controller :lol:
ben

Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2005 12:29 am
by CJ Vega
Hi Ben,

I already know about a few of them that will come to the Market, but if I tell you, I have to shot you! :wink:

Be ready for some serious stuff from: Novation, Allen & Heath, M Audio and Stanton...

Its the controllers age :D

CJ Vega

Porto - Portugal

Gear: 2much 2b posted!

Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2005 9:35 am
by ben_blue
i may already know :lol:


im def still doin the DIY thing, cus there are alwyas going to be very picky things i want...
like clip fire buttons that push down on fire, and get toggled back up when another is pressed in that track...


but yea im sure ill hear about the new stuff soon... 8)

Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2005 10:17 am
by hambone1
I've been doing this for a while now. I run Live on a Powerbook running surround-sound audio, and Live and Arkaos on a desktop Mac (Powerbooks don't yet have the power to run 24fps multi-layer XGA video) synced to the Powerbook running DMX lighting and Arkaos video. I control everything with the Ozonic plugged into the Powerbook.

I find it difficult to explain to people what I do. The DJ term doesn't do it justice.. it's so much more than that. Maybe the CJ or MMA terms will catch on!

Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2005 10:26 am
by Pitch Black
hambone1 wrote: Maybe the CJ thing will catch on!
"Yes, CJ"

"Great!"

"Super!"

"I didn't get where I am today without..."



[The Fall and Rise of Reginald Perrin, BBC, the late 1970's]
http://www.mgnet.karoo.net/reggieperrin.htm

Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2005 10:29 am
by hambone1
"I didn't get where I am today by sounding like a cheese!"

Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2005 12:13 pm
by telekom
Pitch Black wrote:
"Yes, CJ"

"Great!"

"Super!"

"I didn't get where I am today without..."

[The Fall and Rise of Reginald Perrin, BBC, the late 1970's]
Yeh Pitch Black, Classic quality comedy. Leonard Rossiter was on TV last night here in UK when they showed 2001 A Space Odyssey. Brilliant actor. "17 minutes late, points failure at Dagenham..."

I wonder if Live and VJ/Multimedia software would run well on the HAL 9000 Series. Maybe that would put an end to all the mac/pc wars.

"I'm sorry Dave, but merely running three large digital video projections and playing back 7.1 surround sound with 39 tracks of audio has left me rather bored. Could you possibly allow me to do some astrophysical calculations while you tinker with your toys?"

And then later...

"I'm sorry Dave, but this interaction of 4/4 electronic beats and swirling video is rather 1997. I'm going to simulate the birth of the universe instead."

:)

Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2005 3:16 pm
by CJ Vega
...maybe in Live 6 we will have already a track to drop video files! ;)

CJ Vega

Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2005 12:05 am
by Clearscreen
if you're on pc try midividgpu. i can run it with live on the one machine, but it ain't as fancy as, say, gridpro...
what makes you say it's a new concept? as far as i can tell people have been attempting this kind of thing since the late 70's, and thats just in australia!

http://www.octapod.org/jeanpoole/archives/000985.html
(check the bit about severed heads)

Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2005 9:21 pm
by telekom
Clearscreen wrote:as far as i can tell people have been attempting this kind of thing since the late 70's
Yeah Clearscreen... Soft Machine and the late great Mark Boyle for example (67-68?). Scottish National Gallery of Modern Art did a stunning retrospective of Boyle Family couple of years back which featured some of the films/oil lamp pieces Mark Boyle did for Soft Machine and (I think) Hendrix too. It was mesmerising, utterly brilliant stuff.

Nothing new under the sun as they say... You could go back a bit further to sound/film experiments - 1930's Germany - Oskar Fischinger maybe? Or even Norman McLaren' short jazz animations.

Woohoo !

Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 11:39 pm
by CJ Vega
Hello there!

I didnt mean new concept as "new concept"!!! I mean as the new concept available to all of us, and not just to kind of "*Jean Michelle Jarre & friends" producers!

Nowadays technology makes it possible, thats the point. ;)
Fusion of concepts: Audio, Video, MIdi...8)

Cj Vega

*With all the respect!

Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 1:31 pm
by AVFX
I call it AVJing hence my artist names : VJ FX (Visual Jockey) FX,
DJ FX (Disc Jockey) FX, AVJ FX (Audio Visual Jockey'Tm) FX and for live with all the above AVFX (Audio Visual) FX

I have been for many years one of the EUs top VJs (beta tester from ver 3,0 Newteks Lightwave 3D now at ver 8.2) and about a year and a half ago got into music production again with logic plus ableton live.

My Main Profile link : http://www.bangingtunes.com/my/djpage/
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there is a mix of what iv been doing with it dj producer wise here http://www.n2owar.net/AVFX/tracks/DJFX.mp3
and a video of what i do animation wise From the Universal Language DVD/Album I made with Nick Stentience herehttp://66.36.253.133/media/QTA001.wmv
Im in the midst of finishing off the last parts of the PA iv been putting together right now and shall be launching full on for end of year all over the EU.
Iv linked it all out so i can play both music and visuals linked to a high standard on the fly as im playing, the rider for this im in the midst of looking into sponcership wise due to me running the video production in a good year to around 1 million live, thats a huge target demographic to market to. i may even get in contact with ableton themselves to see if they wish to be branded at the events i am doing to help to push the word on the street out about the stunning product :D "if any ableton member of staff is reading this get in contact if ya like :wink: " ill be sending a main marketing package out to all the companies that have hardware and software that i would like to link up later this month ill let ya know how it goes.
be interested in finding out what ya upta

I would just like to thank all the guys at ableton for all their hard work to making this next generation production tool possible xxx

Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 5:31 pm
by Agent47
Some very good points! I am eager to see the creativity that comes from this technology...the bottom line is that the final product (a great mix) will improve and that is what really matters...the music!

Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2005 9:22 am
by MrYellow
I've worked in the adult entertainment industry for years.....
You may want to rethink that name....

CJ = Circle Jerk

Circle Jerk #1

A website that contains no real content yet redirects to traffic trades and
has an endless loop of popups which are inescapable.

Circle Jerk #2

A bunch of gay guys in a circle wanking.....

-Ben