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Hi,

Been looking for this for ages. Its basically a sequencer that you can arpeggiate.

You design a sequence with notes on/off, pitch and velocity. Up to 16 steps for example.

Then you can arpeggiate this sequence. Not just transpose it. But arpeggiate it.

It exist in the Novation Nova, Elektron Analog 4 and the app Step Poly Arp.

But does it exist in max for live?

Does it have to be polyphonic and how would voice sterling work ?

Is this what your thinking of?
https://k-devices.com/products/hexo/

chapelier fou: it would be monophonic so no note stealing. if you hold a chord it will transpose the notes in the chord relative to the notes in the sequence. octatrack also has this arpeggiator. I think kirnu aswell.

gross: hexo doesn't look like it no. it seems like independant sequencer lines.

Do you know that you can MIDI map a clip to a range of notes, and it will be transposed accordingly ?

Yep, but it just transposes the sequence.

Hexo literally has ARP written on it.

Another options:

http://fabriziopoce.com/arpline.html

Yeah, I’ve seen that too. Theres some advanced and creative arpeggiators around but none that does what im looking for it seems. At least not in m4l.

Still haven't found this kind of arpeggiator for Live. Most arpeggiators I've found are very complex and focus on chance and polyrhythms.

Bitwig has exactly this arpeggiator I'm looking for. With individual control over steps with note on/off. Pitch offset, velocity and gate. And you can choose arp direction. Up, down, chord, and so on.

It works as a normal arpeggiator. As you can hold a chord and it will step through each of the held notes, but the nice thing is that it has pitch offset as seen the orange keyboard lane in the pic. With no offsets here it will sound like a normal arp. But making a melody here will transpose the steps accordingly which can lead you in to more exciting territories than a regular arp.

Anybody seen this for Live?

"Arp" from the Maxforlive Essentials pack.

Yeah, I know of that. But it doesn't have the note offset thing.

i've just made a cool setup that does this using follow action sequence in combination with the arp and a midi rack.
works great. has the added bonus of being able to retrigger the pitch/vel/len offsets separately from the arp note-ons.
if anyone wants to give it a try let me know and i'll upload it.

Sounds exciting! Would love to check it out!

Ok, here you go: click here to download and read on for some info if you want..

To start with, fire clip 8 and hold a single note on your controller to get the gist of what's happening.
You'll hear 8 steps playing from your 1 note, which have octave, length and velocity offsets (2 steps disabled too).
Now hold a 3-note chord and you'll hear the offsets fold over in a pleasing polywotsit fashion.

NUMBER OF STEPS track (16x clips):

• This Arp offsetter setup works when one of the clips is running.

• The 16 clips are for setting the number of steps in the arpeggiated 'loop' (so trigger clip 9 = 9-step arp seq, etc)

• All clips are set to retrigger themselves every 2 bars via a 'Again' Follow Action. This works like the Elektron's Change Length param for when you want the seq "reset" at regular intervals. Change the Follow Action length or turn it off completely if you prefer.

• Retriggering these clips (mouse or mapped to a controller) while holding chords is a nice performance trick

16 STEPS (MIDI Rack):

• The MIDI rack has 16x chains, each one controls that step's offset values (Pitch, Length, Vel, Vel Rndm)

• Steps can be muted or solo'd using the buttons in each step's chain - muting for additional rhythmic fun, soloing for auditioning each step's individual offsets

SYNTH track:

• Use this track to record the note output from track 1.

• Add whatever MIDI instrument you want in here (Operator used in example)

Works polyphonically too (set the Arp style to Chord Trigger)

Hope you have fun with it

Wow! Looks like you put some serious work and thought into this.

Thanks