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Transition Macro Variation

Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2021 11:55 am
by llorenzo
Hi I 'm very happy about the new Macro Variations in the Racks in LIve 11.
I feel it is almost there but not quiet and are asking the Max developers if Max could fill the gap here.

I was thinking of three use cases:
1. Set macro variations as a single point in the Automation lane to do smooth curves between variations.
2. LFO like automatic sweeping through variations.
3. Mixing of variations in a single AB slider or even an ABCD field.

It could be easily solved by an ABCD field with the representation of a Variation on each corner.
The automation would have two lines X/Y.

Probably more interesting things to come up with...

Re: Transition Macro Variation

Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2021 5:07 pm
by chapelier fou
Impossible to morph between variations.
I do this recently, maybe worth checking : https://maxforlive.com/library/device.php?id=6850

Re: Transition Macro Variation

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2021 11:15 am
by llorenzo
Thanks for the link, it works quite well. :)
ABCD support would be great.

Re: Transition Macro Variation

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2021 8:31 pm
by chapelier fou
That would be interesting indeed. I’ll try to find some time.

Re: Transition Macro Variation

Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2021 6:31 pm
by doubleUG
ABCD could be done with message "recallmulit" to pattrstorage

"recallmulti
Arguments
weighted-pairs
  • The word recallmulti, followed by at least 2 numeric arguments, permits weighted recall of multiple presets. Each argument determines the (normalized) weight of a particular preset in the final output. If the argument is an integer, the weight is 100%. If the argument is a floating point number, the integer part of the number determines the preset number, and the floating point part of the number determines the weight. For instance, recallmulti 1.3 2.3 5.4 would weight preset 1 at 30%, preset 2 at 30% and preset 5 at 40%. Since weights are normalized, the total weight can be higher than 100%; for instance, recallmulti 1.5 3.5 6.8 would calculate correct weights (27.77%, 27.77% and 44.44% respectively), and recallmulti 1 2 3, recallmulti 1.5 2.5 3.5 and recallmulti 1.99 2.99 3.99 all result in the same output (33.33% for each member)."

Re: Transition Macro Variation

Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2021 6:43 pm
by schlam
.. this device seems closed to what you are looking for..
..but maybe I misandeerstood,..
I didn't try L11...

https://maxforlive.com/library/device/6 ... -automator

Re: Transition Macro Variation

Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2021 5:11 pm
by doubleUG
4 Preset Macro Morph with XY ABCD
https://maxforlive.com/library/device.php?id=6952

Re: Transition Macro Variation

Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2021 5:40 pm
by schlam
@doubleUG

Your device works perfectly.
...but I believed he was talking about morphing of the new "variation stuff" of Live 11.
.not regular morphing of parameters.
Am I wrong ?

Re: Transition Macro Variation

Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2021 9:07 pm
by chapelier fou
@well, as I said you can't morph variations.
And @doubleUG's device works perfectly as a replacement for the feature, so....
Congrats @doubleUG, super elegant device.

Re: Transition Macro Variation

Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2021 9:21 pm
by schlam
yes the device works perfectly ! it's beautiful !

..just for curiosity. what is this device ?

https://maxforlive.com/library/device/6 ... -automator

it's written in the description : "Allows to create automations and morphing for Live 11's Variations."

Re: Transition Macro Variation

Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2021 6:17 am
by chapelier fou
Well, interesting ! I must have missed something in L11 API !