Page 1 of 1
Phase Flip to hear hard clipping
Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2022 1:51 pm
by junqueira
Hey everyone, I would like to phase flip a sound in order to hear the effects of a hard clipper like Kclip. They do this in Bitwig, but I haven't been able to replicate the results in ableton..maybe I'm doing something wrong. Can anyone share how to successfully do this? Here's what they're doing:
https://youtu.be/14TQj_OYz8A?t=212
Re: Phase Flip to hear hard clipping
Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2022 1:58 pm
by [jur]
Create an effect rack with 2 chains
put your plugin in one chain
in the other chain put a Utility with both channel phase inverted (if your plugin does add latency, you'd need to insert it before Utility but make sure it's not processing your sound)
> You should now hear only the difference, i.e the clipping part of your clipper.
Re: Phase Flip to hear hard clipping
Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2022 2:42 pm
by junqueira
[jur] wrote: ↑Wed Jan 19, 2022 1:58 pm
Create an effect rack with 2 chains
put your plugin in one chain
in the other chain put a Utility with both channel phase inverted (if your plugin does add latency, you'd need to insert it before Utility but make sure it's not processing your sound)
> You should now hear only the difference, i.e the clipping part of your clipper.
So I did do it the right way then, the only problem is that I don't hear anything. But I can clearly see that the clipper is chopping the peaks; do you know why? thanks for your help!
Screenshot:
https://www.brysonprice.com/abletonphasequestion
Re: Phase Flip to hear hard clipping
Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2022 6:38 pm
by [jur]
No, you didn't do right.
When I wrote "put the plugin" I meant "put Kclip".
Re: Phase Flip to hear hard clipping
Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2022 7:47 pm
by junqueira
[jur] wrote: ↑Wed Jan 19, 2022 6:38 pm
No, you didn't do right.
When I wrote "put the plugin" I meant "put Kclip".
Got it, thank you : )
Re: Phase Flip to hear hard clipping
Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2022 12:55 pm
by fishmonkey
i'm being pedantic, however you are not "phase flipping".
a change in phase is achieved by shifting a signal backwards or forwards in time. what you are doing is flipping the polarity of the signal.
to be fair, this is such a common mistake that it even appears on some pro equipment (mixers, etc.)
Re: Phase Flip to hear hard clipping
Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2022 2:37 pm
by junqueira
fishmonkey wrote: ↑Thu Jan 20, 2022 12:55 pm
i'm being pedantic, however you are not "phase flipping".
a change in phase is achieved by shifting a signal backwards or forwards in time. what you are doing is flipping the
polarity of the signal.
to be fair, this is such a common mistake that it even appears on some pro equipment (mixers, etc.)
Yes, I understand that
I've been watching Baphometrix on Youtube and I do remember he mentioned that