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Need Help. Guitar Signal is Too Weak

Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2022 11:15 pm
by Led_Zeppelin_IV
I've got my guitar hooked up to my Universal Audio Arrow. The signal coming through sounds great and the UA console meters display healthy signal strength (see first image https://imgur.com/a/63FSOKO). But in Ableton, the signal in the audio track is very weak (see second image https://imgur.com/a/63FSOKO). Cranking up the gain on the track only marginally boosts the signal. Turning up the gain on my interface causes the signal to clip. I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Re: Need Help. Guitar Signal is Too Weak

Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2022 1:15 am
by Pitch Black
Are those meters on the UA in your first pic showing your Input level? I’m wondering if you might have some post-input processing on your guitar inside the UA to get it to that level?

I say this because you’re right, the waveform of the actual recording in Live is very low. Are you using anything such as an amp sim or UA effects on your guitar that aren’t actually being recorded by Live?

In other words, perhaps there’s a routing issue. Maybe you’re monitoring through great UA effects but only the dry input signal is being sent to Live?

Re: Need Help. Guitar Signal is Too Weak

Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2022 8:23 pm
by Led_Zeppelin_IV
Thanks for the reply. Yes, those meters on the UA are my input level. I'm not using any sims or effects, so it should be a completely dry signal coming out of the UA console into Live.

Re: Need Help. Guitar Signal is Too Weak

Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2022 9:57 pm
by Pitch Black
Hmmm, do you have any other DAW/audio app you can try it with on your machine instead of Live and see if the problem persists?

You definitely have the correct UA output selected as the input to the channel in Live?

The UA console pic you posted is showing the UA Output meter.
Could you post a fuller screenshot of the whole UA console showing your guitar level at the Input + and maybe also one of your Live audio prefs?

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Sorry to pepper you with questions! I still think it's most likely a routing issue of some kind. Sorry I don't own any UA gear.

Re: Need Help. Guitar Signal is Too Weak

Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2022 10:29 pm
by fishmonkey
that top pic is definitely the output meter of the Apollo Console, not an input meter. you have a lot of routing options, including dry/wet switches in the Console. most likely you have things set up so that Live is seeing the input signal going into the Arrow, not the boosted processed signal that you are seeing on the Console output meter.

Re: Need Help. Guitar Signal is Too Weak

Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2022 2:16 pm
by learn
OP, did you fix this? if yes, please share - peace.