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Ableton Live 11.1 - Stability, CPU, bugs and stuff...
Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2022 3:20 pm
by Calagan
Hi everybody
If you installed and used the new 11.1 version of Ableton Live, please share here your observations regarding CPU use, stability, bugs... etc. etc.
Please indicate your machine, for exemple like following:
Windows 10, CPU i7, GPU Intel HD 4000, RAM 16Gb, SSD 1To
Mac 10.15.7, CPU i9, GPU etc. etc. etc.
and then your remarks
You'll help a lot of people.
I can't update now (I'm on something, and I don't want to risk any troubles), but I'm interested to know how it goes with this new version (specially on old machines like mine)...
Re: Ableton Live 11.1 - Stability, CPU, bugs and stuff...
Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2022 3:29 pm
by [jur]
Calagan wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 3:20 pm
I can't update now (I'm on something, and I don't want to risk any troubles), but I'm interested to know how it goes with this new version (specially on old machines like mine)...
You can have and run multiple builds on your machine, so why not just downloading it (instead of auto-updating)?
Re: Ableton Live 11.1 - Stability, CPU, bugs and stuff...
Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2022 3:55 pm
by Rivanni
[jur] wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 3:29 pm
You can have and run multiple builds on your machine, so why not just downloading it (instead of auto-updating)?
So, I can run 11.0 and 11.1 next to each other? No wonder auto update is not working.
Or is auto update currently broken and will I end up with two 11.1 installations?
Re: Ableton Live 11.1 - Stability, CPU, bugs and stuff...
Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2022 3:59 pm
by siliconarc
it won't auto-update, you'll need to grab the full installer
https://help.ableton.com/hc/en-us/artic ... 5259263250
Re: Ableton Live 11.1 - Stability, CPU, bugs and stuff...
Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2022 5:05 pm
by ronzoni
MacOS 12.1 - Apple M1 Max 10-core CPU
Most of my VSTs aren't found, I've rescanned, restarted. etc., and only a handful appear. Oddly I see FabFilter Pro-MB (mono) but not FabFilter Pro-MB, which are in the same directory and installed with the same installer.
If I go back to 11.0 I do see all of my VSTs.
What is the criteria for showing a VST, do these plugins need to be updated so they work in an Ableton M1 version? Or is there a possibility that this is an Ableton issue?
Plugins like Serato Sample don't appear, and I'm on the latest version of Serato Sample.
Thanks
Re: Ableton Live 11.1 - Stability, CPU, bugs and stuff...
Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2022 5:20 pm
by [jur]
Ronzoni, read
this.
Re: Ableton Live 11.1 - Stability, CPU, bugs and stuff...
Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2022 5:56 pm
by ronzoni
Re: Ableton Live 11.1 - Stability, CPU, bugs and stuff...
Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2022 7:09 pm
by Calagan
Cool. I don't see a lot of complains, so it seems to be a nice, smooth update...
Re: Ableton Live 11.1 - Stability, CPU, bugs and stuff...
Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2022 10:28 pm
by Raccoon13
On wndows same issue!
There`s no option to use the shortcuts from all plugin folders to the custom plugin scan folder.
I`ve tried similar things, and there`s no light in the dark.
In Ableton 11.0.11 I see all my plugins with the shortcut folders in the browser, switching to the new update 11.1, Ableton only scans the one custom folder, without the shortcuts in there.
Has somebody same issue?
Edit:
The only thing, I`ve found out is, you need to copy your dlls and make a real folder in the custom folder and copy them into it. Than you can see them in the browser and load normally.
Re: Ableton Live 11.1 - Stability, CPU, bugs and stuff...
Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2022 10:54 pm
by Machinesworking
ronzoni wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 5:05 pm
MacOS 12.1 - Apple M1 Max 10-core CPU
Most of my VSTs aren't found, I've rescanned, restarted. etc., and only a handful appear. Oddly I see FabFilter Pro-MB (mono) but not FabFilter Pro-MB, which are in the same directory and installed with the same installer.
If I go back to 11.0 I do see all of my VSTs.
What is the criteria for showing a VST, do these plugins need to be updated so they work in an Ableton M1 version? Or is there a possibility that this is an Ableton issue?
Plugins like Serato Sample don't appear, and I'm on the latest version of Serato Sample.
Thanks
Just so you know, only AU plug ins work with Apples Rosetta to host inside a native DAW, so jurs suggestion runs Live itself as a Rosetta application. You can alternatively use the AU versions, and have a smaller CPU hit, but some plug ins like Kontakt will run much worse in Rosetta in a native host.
Re: Ableton Live 11.1 - Stability, CPU, bugs and stuff...
Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2022 11:23 pm
by hughjass
I'm currently experiencing issues with the new Live 11.1 update.
CPU meter and general playback is laggy/freezes quite often when doing normal tasks on a small project. The same project plays/works fine in Ableton Live Beta 11.1b11.
Running a Mac Pro 2019 with Big Sur.
I'm curious if anyone else is experiencing this?
Re: Ableton Live 11.1 - Stability, CPU, bugs and stuff...
Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2022 7:33 am
by bitzfork
Raccoon13 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 10:28 pm
On wndows same issue!
There`s no option to use the shortcuts from all plugin folders to the custom plugin scan folder.
I`ve tried similar things, and there`s no light in the dark.
In Ableton 11.0.11 I see all my plugins with the shortcut folders in the browser, switching to the new update 11.1, Ableton only scans the one custom folder, without the shortcuts in there.
Has somebody same issue?
Edit:
The only thing, I`ve found out is, you need to copy your dlls and make a real folder in the custom folder and copy them into it. Than you can see them in the browser and load normally.
Here is the same issue with me on Windows which is really disappointing. I don't wanna copy my DLLs because:
1. Additional DLLs take additional space (it is not a huge problem, but even
Ableton's article says not to move DLLs manually)
2. I need to remember to replace the DLLs with the new version when the plugin update
Btw, I don't use any links for the folders, only for the ddl files. So it doesn't look good: we've never had an option to properly organize VSTs in Ableton's browser, and now the workaround looks closed too.
Re: Ableton Live 11.1 - Stability, CPU, bugs and stuff...
Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2022 9:00 am
by Chancery
M1 Mac mini, macOS Monterey 12.1
Running smoothly here.
The only minor hiccup was Amplitube (AU) opened as demo mode and when authorising, the IK Product Manager quit unexpectedly, but then it was all fine, so fingers crossed.
I have all VSTs disabled so can't report on that.
Also, Ableton's authorisation algorithm sees the Mac as a new device, and that's reflected in the authorisation history with a separate hardware code.
BTW, the clip detail view is looking GOOD.
Re: Ableton Live 11.1 - Stability, CPU, bugs and stuff...
Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2022 9:16 am
by Machinesworking
Chancery wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 9:00 am
M1 Mac mini, macOS Monterey 12.1
Running smoothly here.
The only minor hiccup was Amplitube (AU) opened as demo mode and when authorising, the IK Product Manager quit unexpectedly, but then it was all fine, so fingers crossed.
I have all VSTs disabled so can't report on that.
Also, Ableton's authorisation algorithm sees the Mac as a new device, and that's reflected in the authorisation history with a separate hardware code.
BTW, the clip detail view is looking GOOD.
Amplitube is is working pretty well in AU Rosetta, but I'm a bit impatient for them to port it to native. Live input plug ins like that take CPU and the least they take the better!
Re: Ableton Live 11.1 - Stability, CPU, bugs and stuff...
Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2022 5:47 pm
by cids
hughjass wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 11:23 pm
I'm currently experiencing issues with the new Live 11.1 update.
CPU meter and general playback is laggy/freezes quite often when doing normal tasks on a small project. The same project plays/works fine in Ableton Live Beta 11.1b11.
Running a Mac Pro 2019 with Big Sur.
I'm curious if anyone else is experiencing this?
Make sure you check your audio settings, Live 11.1 will not transfer over your beta settings so check if settings are the same for 11.1 and 11.1b11
