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Following the update to 11.1 I have a remix project sent from a friend that is demonstrating issues with M4L. Any M4L device added to a track takes a disproportionate amount of time to load. Once loaded the GUI appears unresponsive until you click the tool bar at the top of the device, at which point parameter changes update visually. However, the devices remain non-operational. LFO's do not modulate etc and animations do not show on devices. Additionally, I cannot launch the M4L editor in this project. So far it is only this project that is showing an issue and M4L behaves as expected in my default project and all other updated projects so far.

Any suggestions as to what the issue might be or what the solution is?

Thanks

Update all the Packs.
Some of them need to be updated.

Read the OP. The devices I'm using work with every other project in 11.1 and the default project just not this one single project that I've updated from 11.0.1 to 11.1. For example, LFO is an audio effect that's part of the core package. That will have been updated with Live but does not work in this one single upadated project. It also wouldn't explain why the M4L editor won't open with this project either.

properLofi wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 17, 2022 12:57 pm

Read the OP. The devices I'm using work with every other project in 11.1 and the default project just not this one single project that I've updated from 11.0.1 to 11.1. For example, LFO is an audio effect that's part of the core package. That will have been updated with Live but does not work in this one single upadated project. It also wouldn't explain why the M4L editor won't open with this project either.

Does this help?

Not really. I’m not running on an ARM machine and can’t open M4L editor to try unfreezing devices. while in the project that has issues. As I say, everything’s fine with M4L everywhere apart from this one project updated from 11.0.1 to 11.1.

It’s not that LFO won’t display the waveform but that the display is inaccurate and doesn’t animate. Additionally parameters don’t update until you click away from the GUI and beyond both those issues, the devices themselves are non-functional. LFO doesn’t modulate mapped parameters etc.

Some of the M4L devices have been updated for 11.1. It maybe worth checking your packs to see if need updating

Mark Williams wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 17, 2022 2:32 pm

Some of the M4L devices have been updated for 11.1. It maybe worth checking your packs to see if need updating

As I said earlier, this is not a device problem, it's a problem with this single project. LFO isn't part of a pack it's inbuilt to Live. It works in my default project, it works in other updated projects, it doesn't work in this ONE SINGLE project. Neither do any other M4L devices updated or otherwise. M4L editor will also not load in this ONE SINGLE project.

Additional complications. Some VSTs will also not validate licenses in this project. Fine in teh default and every other project but not this one. Specifically IKMultimedia VST2 versions.

I dont use VST versions but no issues using AU versions of IK stuff here, i.e Mixbox, Modo Drum and Modo Bass. Maybe a different outdated plugin causing M4L to fail.

It was only the VST2 versions of IKM plugins that had issues. VST3 versions were fine. Turns out that the problem appeared to be Arturia plugins. The January update that I hadn't installed seems to have fixed the issue. Specifically Pigments was the culprit.


Update: - Spoke too soon. What appeared resolved yesterday after hours of trouble shooting and updates has resurfaced today. Same problem, M4L not working, LFO not working, IKM Vst2 plugins not licensing properly and not passing audio. Also now a problem on multiple projects.

I have similar Problems with other m4L devices - some self built, some donwloaded. GUI does not respond, parameter are not changable. Startet a support ticket. please do the same.