Save M4L device mappings in effect racks presets

[K_M]

Hep,

I try to save my M4L device mapping in effect rack. The idea is to have pre-mapped M4L modulation device on VSTs that lack modulation ( Unfilterd Audio latest effects for instance ). That way I can recall the rack and I don't have to remap everything everytime.

The problem is that it seems that M4L devices can't save their mapping when they are saved in an Effect Rack preset. I tried with third party M4L devices and also with stock lfos.

It seems weird to me that it's impossible to do.

Any idea or workaround ?
Cheers

K

[[jur]]

Which Live version?
Are you sure the mappings are lost, or only the parameters names are gone when reopening your set? I'm asking this because there's a bug currently where mapped parameters names aren't recalled correctly, but the mappings aren't actually lost. Usually, minimising and re-maximizing the M4L device does bring back the mapped parameters names.

[K_M]

Tks for your answer

I'm on Live 11, last version 11.2.5. Mac M1 version

I just retried and the mapping is completely gone, not just the name.

[[jur]]

Is it happening with every VST, or only with the Unfiltered Audio one you mentioned?

[K_M]

In fact I just realized it actualy did work with the live devices ( instruments or effects) but with all the VST, effect or instrument it never works. I tried with UA effects, Aalto, Valhalla delay etc

[[jur]]

I just tried with an LFO and a VST and I can't reproduce. Saved Racks are properly recalled from the Browser, and in Live Sets.
Can you try with AUs and let us know?

[K_M]

Thanks very much !

The problem comes from the AU format. I said I was using Vsts but I was actually using AU versions of the plugins. I just tried with vst 3 and vst 2 versions and it works perfectly.

Thanks a lot ! I doesn't tell me why it's not working with the Au version but at least I have a workaround.

I'll report the bug to ableton

Cheers,
Kinan

[[jur]]

Well, I just tried with various AUs, and I can reproduce every time.
Nice catch.
Please let me know when you reported it so I don't need to create a duplicate ticket.

[K_M]

Yep it's reported !

[[jur]]

thx!