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I just made a tour of maxforlive.com. Couldn't find any MPE compatible synth (except a few expensive ones, maybe).
I have my Osmose next to me, I want to learn how to program MPE synths and FXs. Any recommendations of FREE devices whose patching could be explored to learn ?
I'm super interested in MPE patching tutorial as well !

chapelier fou wrote: ↑

Tue Jan 10, 2023 1:46 pm

I have my Osmose next to me

Lucky man!

There's an MPE Arp @Isotonik and a few ones by Andrej Kobal, but not much mpe devices for the time being.
I feel like the reason is that it's looks complicated to program... well, that's actually the reason why I didn't yet dare to really take the plunge even though there's a few things I'd like to patch, but something's telling me that I'm not the only one being afraid by it.

not a synth but def worth checking out https://maxforlive.com/library/device/8738/autoslide

cazel wrote: ↑

Thu Jan 19, 2023 8:12 am

not a synth but def worth checking out https://maxforlive.com/library/device/8738/autoslide

Seems interesting indeed.
But I'm looking for resources to learn, or at least (free) devices that I could explore and do some revere engineering.

chapelier fou wrote: ↑

Thu Jan 19, 2023 12:28 pm

cazel wrote: ↑

Thu Jan 19, 2023 8:12 am

not a synth but def worth checking out https://maxforlive.com/library/device/8738/autoslide

Seems interesting indeed.
But I'm looking for resources to learn, or at least (free) devices that I could explore and do some revere engineering.

https://github.com/sensel/C74-Max-Examples
https://github.com/spectral-lab/m4l-mpe-tools

siliconarc wrote: ↑

Thu Jan 19, 2023 5:11 pm

https://fors.fm/Chiral

Some have understanding issues with the word 'free'
That said, Ess's creations (fors) are always amazing, that could be worth it.

you failed to mention 'free' in your title and initial post

cazel wrote: ↑

Thu Jan 19, 2023 5:21 pm

https://github.com/sensel/C74-Max-Examples
https://github.com/spectral-lab/m4l-mpe-tools

Thanks, I'll dig into it.
I also downloaded the Rise Max package, but unfortunately it's mainly undocumented (no help files) externals.

I'm mainly interested in different ways to handle polyphony in synths. I'd love a clear statement from Ableton/C74 about how voices are allocated in M4L.

And also, as a feature request : the ability to explicitly target a specific voice in M4L. (the main reason has nothing to do with MPE, but this would allow multichannel from a single track).

siliconarc wrote: ↑

Fri Jan 20, 2023 11:13 am

you failed to mention 'free' in your title and initial post

Fair enough ! Editing the first post !

chapelier fou wrote: ↑

Fri Jan 20, 2023 11:14 am

how voices are allocated in M4L.

Randomly, if I remember well... which is

Mpe note off device from max4live.com helped me alot. I used that to organize notes with pressure and slide to multisliders so it's no longer random. Mpe midi from my keith mcmillan kboard recorded in a live clip works fine with my patches, but drawn midi notes do not trigger note off for some reason.