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Does anyone have any knowledge on embedding a device that can send program change messages within an audio track effects rack?

Goal: As much as possible, I don’t look at a computer screen when producing. I use Guitar Rig 6 for a variates of effects applications, and in an ideal world I would like to be able to imbed a program change M4L device insides an effects rack with Guitar Rig so I can easily brows presets with Push 2 in the contest of the track and other effects I’m working with on that track.

Ideas:
1) M4L Program Change device in effects rack on Audio Track
2) M4L device with ability to send/route to midi channel on same track (mimicking a separate midi track routing to Guitar Rig midi.)
3) A M4L device that uses relative CC, in an audio effects rack, on an audio track. - Turn encoder to the right and the same CC will be sent repeatedly as the encoder is turned, as the encoder is turned a different direction it sends a separate CC - This can be mapped to the program inc/dec buttons on Guitar Rig (this could also be useful for other plugins that allow Next/Previous preset button mapping)
4) A M4L device that can control another M4L device (program change device) on a separate track (separate midi track with Prg Chng device)

Any tips, tricks or devices you can share would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you, Neil

Some audio plugins can receive midi from a midi track. No idea if guitar rig can, though, but with a bit of luck...
Just create a blank midi track, and in its midi output chooser the audio track containing your Guitar Rig should appear if the plugin can accept program changes. Then simply use a midi clip in this track to select your PC.

Thanks.

Guitar Rig does receive midi through a separate midi track.

My goal here is the control the program change from the same track that Guitar Rig is in.

oddeo wrote: ↑

Tue Jan 24, 2023 3:42 am

My goal here is the control the program change from the same track that Guitar Rig is in.

Well in this case (without details):
you need an audio M4L device which receives midi (it's possible since L11 - or was it L10?)
grab the PC from the midiparse/midiselect object
load Guitar Rig INSIDE the M4L device using the VST~ or AU~ object and send it your midi PC

Thanks, Jur.

Your tip pushed me in the right direction and I ended up finding this device: https://maxforlive.com/library/device/6 ... parameters

I'm glad it helped!