Two Installations with different settings
Two Installations with different settings
Hi, is there any chance to install Live twice on the same PC with different settings (Windows 10)?
I want to have a very reduced Live version and one with all my plugins.
I want to have a very reduced Live version and one with all my plugins.
Re: Two Installations with different settings
I don't see why not. When you install the second instance, it should tell you that there is already an installation on your machine, and ask whether you want to replace it or install somewhere else.
Re: Two Installations with different settings
Also on Windows, in Live's Preferences you'll find an option to allow using 2 instances (simultaneously, I think).
No idea if it's relevant when not using them simultaneously, but so you know this option exists in case you come across weird behaviours.
No idea if it's relevant when not using them simultaneously, but so you know this option exists in case you come across weird behaviours.
Ableton Forum Moderator
Re: Two Installations with different settings
If you do succeed in installing Live twice would you check in and tell:
1) How the installation worked out.
2) How you accessed each installation separately.
3) Issues you ran into.
4) etc.
Thanks
1) How the installation worked out.
2) How you accessed each installation separately.
3) Issues you ran into.
4) etc.
Thanks
Re: Two Installations with different settings
@ark: It is no problem to install a second instance of Live. But both installations use the same settings (User Library, Plug-In-Folder etc).
@jur: In which part of the preferences do I find this?
Thanks for your answers!
@jur: In which part of the preferences do I find this?
Thanks for your answers!
Re: Two Installations with different settings
Live's preferences are stored in a folder that has the same version number as the Live version you are running. So it's not possible to run the exact same two versions with different settings, as they both would write to and read from and write to the same folder.
So running Live 11.2.6 and 11.2.10 next to each other would be possible (if you disable auto-updates).
However, there's the database that is shared making what you want problematic. It's the database that stores everything you see in Live's browser. It is most of the time coupled to a minor version, so 11.1, 11.2. So Live 11.2.6 and 11.2.10 use the same database. So having for example two separate User Libraries is not possible, since only one can be stored in the database.
You can find the preferences here:
C:\Users\[username]\AppData\Roaming\Ableton\Live x.x.x\Preferences\
and the database here:
C;\Users\[username]\AppData\Local\Ableton\
if you want to have a look.
So running Live 11.2.6 and 11.2.10 next to each other would be possible (if you disable auto-updates).
However, there's the database that is shared making what you want problematic. It's the database that stores everything you see in Live's browser. It is most of the time coupled to a minor version, so 11.1, 11.2. So Live 11.2.6 and 11.2.10 use the same database. So having for example two separate User Libraries is not possible, since only one can be stored in the database.
You can find the preferences here:
C:\Users\[username]\AppData\Roaming\Ableton\Live x.x.x\Preferences\
and the database here:
C;\Users\[username]\AppData\Local\Ableton\
if you want to have a look.
Re: Two Installations with different settings
I've never tried, but I would suppose the opposite. The User Library destination is a custom setting, so I see don't why it wouldn't work to have 2 separate User Library on your HD, and setting each Live version to a dedicated one.
Ableton Forum Moderator
Re: Two Installations with different settings
Setting different locations is not the problem. The shared database is.
Each time you start Live, it will start indexing and overwrite what's already in the database from the other installation. The same for what's under Places, Packs etc. So technically it might be possible but you must be patient each time Live starts.
Running the two different installations at the same time is not possible since one will lock the database and re-indexing is not possible for the other.
Anyway, nothing stops OP from experimenting.
Re: Two Installations with different settings
@Rivanni: So it could work with Live 11.1.x and 11.2.x? I will try this tomorrow.
Re: Two Installations with different settings
So, I installed Live 11.1.6 yesterday evening, disabled Auto-Update and it seemed to work. I have different folders for VSTs and UserLibrary (means no VSTs and only standard Userlib), and the 11.2.10-installation had still all VSTs and big Userlib.
Today, the installed Live 11.1.6 identifies itself as 11.2 (I didn't notice anything how it could update by itself), but the two installations are still independent from each other. I can have different preferences (e.g. zoom factor, VST folder etc), I only have to run the InstallHelper.exe each time, I open the other installation. I don't use the two simultaneaous, I don't know if this is even possible.
For now, it's working as I wished. Thanks to all!
Today, the installed Live 11.1.6 identifies itself as 11.2 (I didn't notice anything how it could update by itself), but the two installations are still independent from each other. I can have different preferences (e.g. zoom factor, VST folder etc), I only have to run the InstallHelper.exe each time, I open the other installation. I don't use the two simultaneaous, I don't know if this is even possible.
For now, it's working as I wished. Thanks to all!